(Note - I wouldn't actually know what they were going to do, unless they volunteered it, as I wouldn't ask)
Why wouldn't you ask them what they are planning on doing if its relevant?
[LAWS]26. A Player who is a replacement shall not be entitled to take a kick at goal until a passage of play has taken place since that Player took to the field of play.[/LAWS]
i think we have had some clarifications on this - if the 10 is taken out by an act of foul play (or Blood, or HIA) then his replacement IS allowed to come on and take the PK at goal.
is that sepcifically the 10, or any person that may have been the goal kicker ? and if it happens in the firsrt minute,, how does the ref at community level 2know" who the goal kicker is?
Im not being sracy here - genuinely interested.
I must admit I’d be reluctant unless I knew for certain it was permissible. Very critical decision. I don’t think a ref at my usual level would allow it unless he/she was certain. As things stand with my knowledge of the situation I can only refer to the regulations. That is a definitive that the ref can show any coach in writing.
If it's your penalty, you can make the choice. If a YC is 9'50 in when the penalty is given, he can't come back on. If it's 10'10 he can.
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Yep, that's the point the ball went "dead".
and here's a thought...
a YC is for ten minutes. so notwithstanding waiting as per the above for 10 minutes to actually pass etc ... it equally seems inequitable for a YC player and team to be off/doqwn for eg 15 minutes just because the ball never is treated as "dead" between 10:01 and 15:00 just because of PKs, FKs, QTIs, quick throw ins to formed lineouts etc etc etc. There has to become a time where its only reasonable to permit the YC player to return. Otherwise as suggested before, it is only scrums and a 2nd half kick off whereby the ball is NOT zombie like and the game coud restart as soon as the team awarded <the next action> choose to do so ... which could optherwise preclude an oppo YC from returning
and here's a thought...
a YC is for ten minutes. so notwithstanding waiting as per the above for 10 minutes to actually pass etc ... it equally seems inequitable for a YC player and team to be off/doqwn for eg 15 minutes just because the ball never is treated as "dead" between 10:01 and 15:00 just because of PKs, FKs, QTIs, quick throw ins to formed lineouts etc etc etc. There has to become a time where its only reasonable to permit the YC player to return. Otherwise as suggested before, it is only scrums and a 2nd half kick off whereby the ball is NOT zombie like and the game coud restart as soon as the team awarded <the next action> choose to do so ... which could optherwise preclude an oppo YC from returning
Apart from perhaps one person from the southern hemisphere it looks as if we have a considerable amount of consensus and that referees would allow a YC to return at a penalty if the non-offending side want to make the return. I must admit I am slightly disappointed by the number of responses because it was a genuine question to try to gauge what degree of consistency we have.
Now can we look at a similar situation where we have the non-offending side wanting to make a replacement.
Team Red have been awarded a penalty and want to make a replacement. Assuming no quick penalty has been taken, team. They want to:-
A.) Take a kick for touch.
B.) Take a shot at goal. (Not by the replacement in RFU land because it is not allowed.)
C.) Opt for a scrum.
D.) Tap and run with the ball.
What would you do or expect the referee to do? Anything different to the YC return?