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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/may/11/leicesters-chris-ashton-escapes-ban-following-red-card-against-harlequins

World Rugby has confirmed that professional match official, Karl Dickson, correctly applied the Law during the Leicester Tigers versus Exeter Chiefs game which saw the penalty try and a yellow card awarded. Law 13.4 is clear that players cannot fall on or over players on the ground and tackle...

What time in the above clip does this discussion occur please Phil? Maybe it's because the commentators keep interrupting but I couldn't hear anything about side entry, just falling on a player on the floor.

More angles here

Thanks for this, Crossref and Marc. In the clip it looks a little different from this case because the defender doesn't appear to fall "on" the BC though, just next to him. Or does that fall under the same law? (No pun intended, lol.) But yes if the same ref got admonished for not pinging this...

Seemed a bit harsh to me but the commentators said it was fair according to the laws. It's not the best clip but Olly Woodburn is the 2nd white player in at the end, trying to prevent the try by green. He was penalised (with YC & PT) for diving on a player on the ground, which pushed the BC...

Oh, good spot! This totally explains the referee's decision in this case, and I really hope the DC doesn't mess things up by overturning it. It makes me wonder... Given that this new guidance is dated March 9, 2023, shouldn't the DC have been using it in the Freddie Steward case? The match...

Thanks for this, Stu. The video appears to be out of date though? It's part of the Head Contact Process from March 2021, and isn't included in the most recent guidance from March 2023. Assuming the 2021 guidance has been superseded, isn't the only possible conclusion that shoulder charging with...

Why did the referee say mitigation could not be applied after it was confirmed there was no attempt to wrap?

Don't worry it will be struck down by the DC by applying mitigation 😁

They didn't mention anything about leading with the elbow in the official statement (and it was tucked into his body so it would be strange if they did.) https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/freddie-steward-independent-disciplinary-update-march-2023

Does a judge need to have been a criminal to be able to make a judgement? Lol no, hopefully not - but they almost always rise through the ranks of the judiciary. To adapt your analogy, all three have been "criminals" (players and/or coaches), but none of them have been barristers (referees).

Yes, but... a) The DC said it wasn't 9.13 (high tackle) but 9.11 (dangerous tackle), so why would the head contact process come into play? The [Head Contact] process can be applied to: • High tackles • Shoulder charges • Dangerous cleanouts • Head-to-head collisions • Leading elbow / forearm...

So once again the disciplinary committee make a complete horlicks of everything and muddies the waters, leaving us more confused than when we started, and hanging the referee To4 out to dry in the process. As Nigel says in the article, if it's reckless and foul play as the committee decided...

Nigel sees both sides of the RC debate

Isn't standing straight up into the path of the tackler considered a "passive tackle" though? I seem to remember a YC in those circumstances not so long ago, where it would have been RC but was reduced to YC because of being passive. It's a little different in this case as FS wasn't passive as...

If you are able to find the phrase ‘rugby incident’ in the law book then please let me know. Referees do not have the option to deal with the majority of what were once considered unavoidable collisions as accidental no-blame collisions. If you think this seems ludicrous in a contact sport then...

Interesting idea, and not one I've heard before. This would make a difference particularly in the last 10 mins of a game, where there is no effective difference to the non-offending team between a YC and a RC.

I think I agree. The RC was arguably a little hard on FS, but then he's the one who put himself in a position he couldn't get out of. And, at the same time, Ireland lost one of their starting line-up for the duration. So if England had gone a man down for 20 mins, maybe that would have been...

JP: "no change of height... he has to take care" at 1:35 into this video