Connacht V Glasgow

[Marc Wakeham]

Last minute of the game and Connacht (trailing by a point 26-27) attempt a drop goal. The kick falls short and the Glasgow full back carries the ball for a meter or two in-field back into in goal and touches down.

Ian Davies gives a drop out 22.

Thoughts?

 

[oldman]

What in my professional life is referred to as a "cock-up". Ref made a mistake.

 

[Rich_NL]

Yep, clear mistake. The ref'll be kicking himself.

 

[ChrisR]

As should the ARs as they probably (???) had the better perspective. Should the TMO speak up?

 

[seanaodh]

As far as I'm aware the TMO can only have input on try scoring, or if he sees potential foul play, neither of which apply here.

I think the ref was so focused on the clock and working out if he was going to ground it before or after the 80 that he had a brain fart. We all make mistakes on the pitch, this just happened to be pretty crucial and he'll be kicking himself.

It's a pity one of the ARs didn't notice it and have a quick word in his ear. I'll be honest, I was watching it from the other side of a busy rugby club bar, and I didn't realise it either till I saw it on twitter later on.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

It was pretty critical. Attacking scrum 5 for the side a point behind as opposed to a 22 drop out. I would expect the assessor / advisor to flag it as a critical error.

He certainly was close enough to see it clearly.

I agree that protocols would seem to prevent the TMO's intervention. However, surely the point of the "support" of things like the TMO is to get critical calls right!

 

[crossref]

Connacht brought the error to his attention , why didn't he reverse it (consulting AR if he wasn't sure what actually happened)
Normally if you have a brain fart , when someone question it you know straight away that it was, indeed, exactly that

 

[ChrisR]

Connacht brought the error to his attention , why didn't he reverse it (consulting AR if he wasn't sure what actually happened)
Normally if you have a brain fart , when someone question it you know straight away that it was, indeed, exactly that

Really good point. Since it's a dead ball restart surely he could have asked the AR and/or the TMO?

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Full marks to Connacht as well. Yes, there was a question but no real protest and all handshakes after the whistle.

 

[Shelflife]

Did Connacht question it ?

I was at the match and didnt spot it, (too busy moaning as to why they tried the
DG from that distance) I didnt notice any of the players questioning it.

Heres a query, lets say in this instance the 4th official loses the run of himself and tells the ref that it was carried over and it should be a scrum 5. ( way outside his remit I know )

If youre the ref in that instance what do you do ?

 

[crossref]

Last season Connacht won a game, didn't they , because of a referee error at the death. Against Wasps

 

[Marc Wakeham]

I'm not sure about this It all evens out stuff. So what? It was a poor error by Ian. I'd expect to be marked down for it out in the sticks so he must expect a rap accross the knuckles.

 

[seanaodh]

Last season Connacht won a game, didn't they , because of a referee error at the death. Against Wasps

They did. John Muldoon convinced AR1 (who had replaced the injured ref) that the new law trial about a kick to touch after the 80 was in force already.

Two wrongs don't make a right though. It's a bit of a cautionary tale. I can almost guarantee if this hadn't been in the last moments and the clock wasn't the big factor that it was he wouldn't have made the mistake. It's a bit of a reminder to always keep your focus for the full 80, and don't let the excitement of the end of a tight match distract you from the basics.

 

[DocY]

Heres a query, lets say in this instance the 4th official loses the run of himself and tells the ref that it was carried over and it should be a scrum 5. ( way outside his remit I know )

If youre the ref in that instance what do you do ?

Listen to him.

What's worse, letting a decision you know to be wrong stand on a technicality or break protocol to get the decision right?

 

[UpandUnder]

Listen to him.

What's worse, letting a decision you know to be wrong stand on a technicality or break protocol to get the decision right?

Agreed, we all want to get the best outcome.

It's not only the ref to blame here, the whole team of 3 should have a look at how they missed that.