Mr.Christopher
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I am using the following clip for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c25Se0kDxNw
Above.. white starts with 2 men in the LO, and a player at the receiver position at least 2m back from the Line of Touch (LoT). The hooker throws the ball, and the receiver runs into the line to act as a jumper... as he is very much allowed to do.
[LAWS]19.9a - Lineout begins. The lineout begins when the ball leaves the hands of the player throwing it in.[/LAWS]
So... when can the "receiver" join the line?
[LAWS]19.8i - Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver, then that player, must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout, and between the 5m and 15m lines, until the lineout begins.
Once the lineout has commenced, the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.[/LAWS]
So.... we're fine with where the receiver starts, and with when he joins the line.
Now... keep in mind that they are close to the receiver's goal line.
The original receiver, NOW the jumper... brings the ball down and pops it to another player standing in the "receiver" position. (Lineout still in progress... as it has not yet moved a meter, nor gone inside the 5 or beyond the 15).
WAIT a second... where the hell did this new receiver come from? Should everyone else from the receiving team have been back behind the offside line (in this case, the goal line)?
So... and HERE'S MY QUESTION: Isn't the player who ends up receiving the ball, technically offside?
Looking at this, I would penalize white for Offside at the LO and... as I can't march them back 10m to where the actual offside line is (due to the LoT being the 5m line).... I would make the mark at the 15m line, located 5m from the goal line, and give the ball to blue.
Right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c25Se0kDxNw
Above.. white starts with 2 men in the LO, and a player at the receiver position at least 2m back from the Line of Touch (LoT). The hooker throws the ball, and the receiver runs into the line to act as a jumper... as he is very much allowed to do.
[LAWS]19.9a - Lineout begins. The lineout begins when the ball leaves the hands of the player throwing it in.[/LAWS]
So... when can the "receiver" join the line?
[LAWS]19.8i - Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver, then that player, must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout, and between the 5m and 15m lines, until the lineout begins.
Once the lineout has commenced, the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.[/LAWS]
So.... we're fine with where the receiver starts, and with when he joins the line.
Now... keep in mind that they are close to the receiver's goal line.
The original receiver, NOW the jumper... brings the ball down and pops it to another player standing in the "receiver" position. (Lineout still in progress... as it has not yet moved a meter, nor gone inside the 5 or beyond the 15).
WAIT a second... where the hell did this new receiver come from? Should everyone else from the receiving team have been back behind the offside line (in this case, the goal line)?
So... and HERE'S MY QUESTION: Isn't the player who ends up receiving the ball, technically offside?
Looking at this, I would penalize white for Offside at the LO and... as I can't march them back 10m to where the actual offside line is (due to the LoT being the 5m line).... I would make the mark at the 15m line, located 5m from the goal line, and give the ball to blue.
Right?
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