End of match on Penalty.

[Dickie E]

When, legally, is it “awarded”? I’ve always treated that as when the offense occurs

Blue knock-on in general play at 79:45 and Red gather ball. Ref calls "advantage" and hangs arm. Red dick around with ball for a bit but no advantage coming so ref blows whistle at 80:15 for the scrum.

In summary, offence at 79:45 and whistle at 80:15. Scrum or full-time?

 

[crossref]

Blue knock-on in general play at 79:45 and Red gather ball. Ref calls "advantage" and hangs arm. Red dick around with ball for a bit but no advantage coming so ref blows whistle at 80:15 for the scrum.

In summary, offence at 79:45 and whistle at 80:15. Scrum or full-time?

Full time.. so dont do that

 

[Dickie E]

Full time.. so dont do that

so surely same logic for PT scenario?

 

[crossref]

so surely same logic for PT scenario?

As I said #19

 

[Locke]

Blue knock-on in general play at 79:45 and Red gather ball. Ref calls "advantage" and hangs arm. Red dick around with ball for a bit but no advantage coming so ref blows whistle at 80:15 for the scrum.

In summary, offence at 79:45 and whistle at 80:15. Scrum or full-time?

For me this is an obvious scrum restart. Even if the letter of the law indicates full time should be called, I’m awarding the scrum because, if for no other reason, I as the referee have failed the team by not ending advantage and awarding them the scrum before 80:00 since, at that point, it is not to their advantage for the play to continue. If the game is on the line, I’m not being a jobsworth about the technicality of 15 seconds because I didn’t end advantage soon enough.

 

[menace]

@Marc Wakeham ,see what happens when you mention Chopper (God rest his forum soul)? It inspires DickieE to channel his tangents!

(Apologies to those that have not ever experienced reading Choppers diatribes in these forums some years ago and have no inkling WTF the reference....or is he back?)

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

@Marc Wakeham ,see what happens when you mention Chopper (God rest his forum soul)? It inspires DickieE to channel his tangents!

(Apologies to those that have not ever experienced reading Choppers diatribes in these forums some years ago and have no inkling WTF the reference....or is he back?)

Chopper is still 14th in the all time posting league and he hasn't posted for 10 years. He banged them out when he was at his most prolific.

 

[Stu10]

Blue knock-on in general play at 79:45 and Red gather ball. Ref calls "advantage" and hangs arm. Red dick around with ball for a bit but no advantage coming so ref blows whistle at 80:15 for the scrum.

In summary, offence at 79:45 and whistle at 80:15. Scrum or full-time?

We've been here before...

Scrum advantage before 80:00

Bristol vs Leicester today. Leicester 3 points down. Less than 30 seconds to go. Leicester kicked for touch from a penalty with the clock at 79:50. (The line out would have been part of the penalty so would have been completed after the clock goes red.) Piatau quite brilliant stops the...

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