didds
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so you've seen it happen with a quality ref? If so, can you describe what happened?
they blew the whistle and ran under the posts.
so you've seen it happen with a quality ref? If so, can you describe what happened?
After 45 years or so involvement in RU as a player, coach, very occassional (and crap!) ref, blazer and supporter across grass roots to elite, Ive never ever been aware of any unwritten rules/laws/understandfings/interpretations that a grounded try takes precendence over a PT award.
My entire understandign is that if/when the ref sees a PT scenario (s)he just blows immediately.
Clealrly others mileage differs.
Here's another. ball in care's hands, as he starts to play to the left. PT straight under the posts. No waiting to see if Quinns will take 40 phases to score elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-KYg6w8Wio&t=265s
Kinda yeah, kinda naw.After 45 years or so involvement in RU as a player, coach, very occassional (and crap!) ref, blazer and supporter across grass roots to elite, Ive never ever been aware of any unwritten rules/laws/understandfings/interpretations that a grounded try takes precendence over a PT award.
My entire understandign is that if/when the ref sees a PT scenario (s)he just blows immediately.
Clealrly others mileage differs.
on one of the ELRA courses i hosted (and "helped" deliver, back when i was trying to make my club a local centre of excellence for refereeing), the chap running the course said to allow the try in this scenario rather than give a penalty try.
but then he was the same chap who on another course said that if you don't know who committed foul play worthy of a red card you can send off the captain instead...
Significantly both examples are from scrums that have failed illegally which is not the point of discussion. I'm looking for an example where a referee has determined that a try has been scored in a less advantageous position due to foul play
well, there shoudnt be one unless it is all but instantaneous. thats my point. Once the PT offense has occurred that is it. Not waiting to see what happens afterwards which may or may not end up with a try scored in a less advantageous position.?
None of the suggested scenarios presented thus far would fit that "all but instaaneous" thing. There is no need to play on for any more advantageous position - the PT is already the most advantageous position to be in as a result of foul play.
quite. I think that says everything you need to know about his advice.
a chap once told me that the sun rises in the east then went on to tell me that mermaids are real. I can therefore conclude that the sun does not rise in the east. I expect there is a Latin phrase for this.