Free Kick behind 22
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Well if the FK was awarded then presumably we've already passed that point!
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Sounds like LO to opposition as described.
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LO to opposition at the point the ball crossed the plane of touch... am I missing something here, seems very straight forward?
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it doesn’t matter. The result is the same.
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Law 20
The kicker may punt, drop-kick or place-kick (other than for touch) the ball.
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Unclear to me why that would matter.
When asking the question I had my reviewers head on and the approach that I/we take to enable referees to analyse situations.
When a referee asks a question of the nature that was asked by the OP I like to take the referee through a thought process that hopefully enables the referee to reach the answer/solution themselves.
So if I was asked the question face to face I would firstly ask the referee, ‘how did the ball get into the 22 in the first place’? Once that has been answered I would then perhaps ask for example, ‘what happened next’? Or ‘what caused the FK’? This should lead the referee to the answer.
I appreciate that a forum is perhaps not the best vehicle for this approach.
I shouldn’t view this forum while taking a break from writing last Saturday’s report!
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When asking the question I had my reviewers head on and the approach that I/we take to enable referees to analyse situations.
When a referee asks a question of the nature that was asked by the OP I like to take the referee through a thought process that hopefully enables the referee to reach the answer/solution themselves.
So if I was asked the question face to face I would firstly ask the referee, ‘how did the ball get into the 22 in the first place’? Once that has been answered I would then perhaps ask for example, ‘what happened next’? Or ‘what caused the FK’? This should lead the referee to the answer.
I appreciate that a forum is perhaps not the best vehicle for this approach.
I'm with dibbs. I'd be checking your orange juice at this point to see how many vodkas you've slipped in there.
By enabling a referee to analyse a situation quickly and fully he is more likely to answer his/her own question.Fair e bnough balones... what if after the initial question wrt ghow the ball got there, the ref says "Doesnt matter. its a FK innit" ?
I asked myself, why did the OP ask the question? What aspect of the scenario is the OP not really sure about? I would in such circumstances just take the referee back a step or two in the process to try to glean what exactly was causing a glitch in the decision making process. Were they thinking for example that the free kick was being awarded to the side that had brought the ball into the 22 in the first place? What does the award of a scrum or lineout fulfil in that decision making process? Etc.
P.S. More a gin and orange person myself.
- but only beer at most when writing reports.Apologies. Revealing my educational philosophy background.ref coaching 101 ... always answer a question with another question