Akira Nonaka
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This is a clip from Japan vs Australia game on Oct. 1 in Tokyo. Can someone explain/guess why this is a penalty?
Well it depends whether the ball was popped up as you say or lost in the tackle as others seem to think.I thought that was quite a tough PK.
No offside line formed
Ball is popped up out of the tackle area, so tackle is over
i'm not sure it makes any difference? .... ball came out of the tackle area, so tackle is over.Well it depends whether the ball was popped up as you say or lost in the tackle as others seem to think.
i'm not sure it makes any difference? .... ball came out of the tackle area, so tackle is over.
(Unless you think the australian tackler knocked the ball forward, in which case simple offside)
yes, OK.Ball carrier gets tackled. Tackler grts back to his feet and positions himself over the ball carrier and the ball.
This creates offside lines.
Yellow 23 (I think) arrives and as the ball carrier pops the ball up, he receives it in an offside position.
yes, OK.
Interesting one though - 14.10 was created after that England v Italy game - with the purpose that that the ball carrying team would be able to able to create an offside line at a tackle, and prevent the tackling team from coming round.
Here you are saying that we have a tackler creating an offside line, with the only impact being that he put his own team mates offside. An unintended consequence?
yes, but the ball had left the tackle, so tackle over, so he didn't enter the tackle zoneEven before the 'TWOL' became law it was illegal to enter the tackle zone from the wrong side. It was once legal for a tackler to get back on their feet and play the ball from the 'wrong' side but even that is now illegal.
the law was to enable the ball carriers (England) to create a TWOL to stop the tackling side (Italy) from coming round offsideNot unintended at all....this is the whole point of the law!
Indeed...I misread your post.the law was to enable the ball carriers (England) to create a TWOL to stop the tackling side (Italy) from coming round offside
This for me, regardless of any offside lines. Whilst the tackle is still occurring he is moving close enough to it not from the direction of his own goal line. Unfairly preventing quick use of the ball post-tackle, which (the latter) should be encouraged.IMO
14.8c - Gold 23 plays the ball not having arrived from the correct direction
The tackler was on his feet over the ball before the ball popped out, so offside lines had already been created.
After that anyone playing the ball or entering the tackel area had to do so from their own side. Yellow 23 didn't do that, so was offside.
You can see the referee signalling that the player didn't enter from his own side.
Based on the letter of the law in 14.10 requiring an upright player over the ball, it would be play on.If the Gold tackler had remained on the floor would it have been play on, because no offside line had been set and it is therefore open play?