[Mini/Midi] Let's ban an 11 year old for life

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Not sure why the constituent body are getting involved?

Here in the UK it is my understanding that issues such as this for a lad so young are dealt with at the Club/School level.

normally yes but with some exceptions, for example

3.3 Cases covered by RFU Regulation 19.1.14(f) (serious injury), 19.1.14(g)
(cases under police investigation), 19.1.14(h) (racial abuse cases) shall be
referred to the NYDS who shall determine whether the Club, the CB or the
RFU (if agreed by the RFU Head of Discipline) should deal with the matter.

and a catch-all

1.6 The RFU Head of Discipline has the power to deal with any case or to
direct how a case is to be dealt with.

I think one purpose of this is to allow the RFU to intervene in any case where it is felt that the club/school discipline process was mistaken or acted inappropriately. Another might be to reserve the ability to deal with any very unusual cases - such this one.

No doubt the NZ Regs contain similar clauses.

For anyone who wants to look it up, it's Reg 19 App 6
http://www.englandrugby.com/governance/regulations/
 
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Crossref, thanbk you for the clarification.
 

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Not sure why the constituent body are getting involved?..
Hi,
In the case of the incident at our club, one of the Mums watching the minis worked for social services ; it wasn't the club who alerted them.
However some of the coaching staff were going to phone the police, if the Dad attempted to drive home afterwards ; due to his drunken state.
I don't think the club would enforce a lifetime ban on the kid, if he turned up now looking to play U13s.
 

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Do we know how old the referee in question was? Because at many of our junior games the referees aren't much older than the players and are generally not the biggest kids... People calling for life bans are over the top but there's a good chance that there's been a referee lost as a result of this player's actions - it needs to be appropriately dealt with... Some sort of constructive punishment involving learning to referee and the kid actually making an effort at it would be a good solution.

Btw, do we know what his punishment was?
 

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He needs a huge ban, a deterent has to be there even for 11 year olds.

FFS stop being so bloody soft on them.
 

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Re: Re : Let's ban an 11 year old for life

In most of mainland Europe their age of criminal responsibility is set at at least 12, if not 14 or higher, and they often think that the Anglo-Saxon world is being ridiculous and barbaric by setting it lower.
Food for thought.

I can imagine that a mothers eyes might 'Bulge' & lack any appetite for such food.
IIUC, A couple of notorious 10yr olds were held to be criminally responsible for their actions in NW UK.

You'd have to know the details of the case involving the OP referee assault, but if possible Id favour a extended period of community rugby {refereeing?} development for the player. However sometimes even valiant attempts at can prove unsuccessful hashtag=venables.

ps....11 yr old assaulting an adult has gotta be rare, one wonders if Mike Tyson is in his genealogical ancestry?!
 

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?..
Btw, do we know what his punishment was?
unfortunately due to some misplaced comments, by the usual culprits here on RRF, the poor chap got the death penalty in the end. :-(

Well done Chaps. Balanced view as ever.
 
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