lineout ends

[Dickie E]

19.9(b) says lineout ends when ball is thrown, knowcked or kicked out of the lineout. How far does the ball have to travel to meet this requirement?

 

[Davet]

I woud suggest beyond outside shoulders, say 1m from LoT.

 

[Volun-selected]

I want to revisit this In light of the SA set piece. SA go up and win the lineout, then pass back to another pod of players. They obviously have to pass backwards - does that end the lineout so we’re now in open field play for the new tackle rules and pre-binding?

How far back does a ball need to go towards the goal line for the lineout to be over?

Watched the highlights of Aus v SA this morning. Well worked first try for SA at a line out.

I have it in my head that you cannot pre-bind onto a ball carrying team mate as it's dangerous but can't find a law reference.
Clearly when the ball is passed back to Etzebeth his teammates bind onto him and drive before any Aussie has engaged.
Have I just dreamt this? It looked wrong to me.

 

[RemainingInTheGame]

Isn't this a fantastic innovation from SA!!!

I saw it live and was so impressed.

I hope world rugby come out and clarify 0.5m from mark of touch is out of lineout and specifically allows this type of play.

In the last 30 years the lineout set piece has progressed so much, and this just adds to it.

I wish we could fix scrums to be as good a spectacular contest.

 

[didds]

I hope world rugby come out and clarify 0.5m from mark of touch is out of lineout and specifically allows this type of play.

whilst appreciating there are already other subjective invisible lines (10m/5m/2m etc) nonetheless this just creates yet another subjective line, having to be decided upon by a referee stood maybe 15-20m away at an oblique angle, possibly with obscured vision if on the defending team's side of the lineout (ie not in the "zipper" position).
This would have to be implemented in 100% of matches, not just the miniscule fraction of 1% at the elite end with ARs, TMOs and video etc

 

[Ciaran Trainor]

There are lots of line out moves that are marginal especially at the top end of the game where players"drop out"/peel etc. and very difficult for the ref to be on top of all of it.
For the record I thought this SA line out was perfectly legal. 1st pod jump for the ball and catch and pass it back to second pod who never moved from LoT.
Great to see innovation in the game. I just questioned whether once they move off the line it is a Flying wedge.

 

[Mipper]

There are lots of line out moves that are marginal especially at the top end of the game where players"drop out"/peel etc. and very difficult for the ref to be on top of all of it.
For the record I thought this SA line out was perfectly legal. 1st pod jump for the ball and catch and pass it back to second pod who never moved from LoT.
Great to see innovation in the game. I just questioned whether once they move off the line it is a Flying wedge.

I think Ciaran, that it is very difficult to see that as a flying wedge, any more than the usual catch-and-drive from the Lineout. The one Aussie defender was pretty much straight into defend it and in real time it looked fine.