[INTERNATIONAL] Lineout law error?

[FlipFlop]

Couldn't find a discussion on this one, but point let me know if already being discussed.

In one of the games at on Saturday (forget which, but think it was France v Scotland), there is a long kick that goes out on the full by Team 1. Team 2 take a QTI behind the 22m (rather than accept the lineout that would have been in the other half of the field - probably around the 10m line?).

After the WTI, the Team 2 kick from behind 22m goes directly into touch around the halfway.

The lineout got awarded to Team 1 around the halfway.

I thought this was wrong. The initial lineout should have been outside the 22m, so the QTI took the ball into the 22m, so the lineout should have been inline with the Team 2 kicker.

Tactically - don't understand why Team 2 took the QTI - they lost out as a result of it even with the wrong (in my view) decision of where the final lineout should be. (lost territory and possession)

Anyone else remember this?

 

[Pegleg]

Well it was not France V Scotland (they did not play each other). However, for me in the scenario as you describe, the team took the ball back so can't get gain in ground.

Not sure whether WR agree with me though.

 

[DocY]

It was Wales Scotland - you can see they guy (Davies) on the replay getting a bit of a talking to from one of his team mates just after.

My memory (which might be wrong) was that he didn't carry the ball back and just took it from where it went out.

There was a recent thread on a similar topic, i.e. the player not moving with the ball at all. I'm not sure it would be exactly the same situation since the ball was kicked into the 22, but it's an interesting question. That nobody (well, nearly nobody :smile noticed suggests that, if he was wrong, he got away with it.

 

[crossref]

that kick went over the 22m line, didn't it, and then into touch, so it was the kicker who put the ball into the 22m, I don't see why you wouldn't allow gain in ground from the subsequent returning touch kick.

(Of course he was foolish to kick it back, as he turned his lineout into their lineout)

(The scenario we all spent ages discussing on another thread is the ball going into touch outsdie the 22m, and then rolling, or being carried further back, where opinions differed on what is fair, and what Law says)

 

[TheBFG]

saw that out of the corner of my eye an thought it looked wrong. FWIR, the ball went out just past the 10m line ran down the touch line, when the player picked it up it was beyond the 22 he passed it to the FB? who kicked it out and a gain in ground was given????

 

[crossref]

in which case it was exactly the scenario we've all been discussing

need to find the video and see exactly what happened!

 

[Pegleg]

If it is the kick at 08:42 (game time) the Scottish kick lands on the touchline INSIDE the Welsh 22 so the Welsh player does not take it back.

The only error is his judgement. The officials are ok on this one.