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Sounds to me like some of your are looking for any excuse to excuse a referee who dropped a huge bollock.
The Red player was NOT accidentally offside, he was just plain offside in general play.
Accidentally offside only applies when
1. a player is run into by a ball carrier team mate behind of him.
2. a player cannot avoid being touched by a ball that was played by a team-mate behind him
[LAWS]11.6 ACCIDENTAL OFFSIDE
(a) When an offside player cannot avoid being touched by the ball or by a team-mate carrying
it, the player is accidentally offside. If the player’s team gains no advantage from this, play
continues. If the player’s team gains an advantage, a scrum is formed with the opposing
team throwing in the ball. [/LAWS]
The Red player PLAYED AT THE BALL AND CAUGHT IT . He made no attempt whatsoever to get out of the way of it. That is a PK for offside every day of the week.
As for the assertion that Read's contest in the air was unfair...? Utter bollocks. That contest was perfectly fair.
1. Both players had a good chance to get possession of the ball
2. Both players got up to the same height.
Just because one player clatters the other in the air does automatically mean the clatterer is in the wrong (see Biggar v Russell - Wales v Scotland, 2015 Six Nations)
Finally, the TMO protocol.
I thought it was clear that the referee could only use the TMO review scoring or for foul play. Even if Poite had gone to the TMO over the challenge in the air, the TMO then cannot bring anything else to the attention of the referee that is not directly involved with the alleged foul play unless it was another act of foul play. If this is what they have done, then that is a egregious breach of TMO protocols.
This is not the first time Poite has dropped a huge bollock. (See the YC given to Bismarck Du Plessis for a perfectly legitimate tackle on Dan Carter in 2013). That was a decision that had huge repercussions later in the game when Du Plessis copped another YC and South Africa lost him for the rest of the match.
In this case, Poite has committed an unforgivable Law error that has had a direct impact on the result of the game.
The Red player was NOT accidentally offside, he was just plain offside in general play.
Accidentally offside only applies when
1. a player is run into by a ball carrier team mate behind of him.
2. a player cannot avoid being touched by a ball that was played by a team-mate behind him
[LAWS]11.6 ACCIDENTAL OFFSIDE
(a) When an offside player cannot avoid being touched by the ball or by a team-mate carrying
it, the player is accidentally offside. If the player’s team gains no advantage from this, play
continues. If the player’s team gains an advantage, a scrum is formed with the opposing
team throwing in the ball. [/LAWS]
The Red player PLAYED AT THE BALL AND CAUGHT IT . He made no attempt whatsoever to get out of the way of it. That is a PK for offside every day of the week.
As for the assertion that Read's contest in the air was unfair...? Utter bollocks. That contest was perfectly fair.
1. Both players had a good chance to get possession of the ball
2. Both players got up to the same height.
Just because one player clatters the other in the air does automatically mean the clatterer is in the wrong (see Biggar v Russell - Wales v Scotland, 2015 Six Nations)
Finally, the TMO protocol.
I thought it was clear that the referee could only use the TMO review scoring or for foul play. Even if Poite had gone to the TMO over the challenge in the air, the TMO then cannot bring anything else to the attention of the referee that is not directly involved with the alleged foul play unless it was another act of foul play. If this is what they have done, then that is a egregious breach of TMO protocols.
This is not the first time Poite has dropped a huge bollock. (See the YC given to Bismarck Du Plessis for a perfectly legitimate tackle on Dan Carter in 2013). That was a decision that had huge repercussions later in the game when Du Plessis copped another YC and South Africa lost him for the rest of the match.
In this case, Poite has committed an unforgivable Law error that has had a direct impact on the result of the game.
