Mark - @Clean Catch

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

I don't think I would have awarded the FK to Laidlaw (blue) if I were Craig Joubert (pah!).

Sorry to hi-jack but I thought I would take the opportunity to say I thought Hogg played well in a beaten team.

 

[Account Deleted]

Form th definition "Mark must be a clean catch direct from an opponent's kick."

Direct usually means nobody else has touched it.

So you're assuming what direct means.

Direct, for me means not having touched a player or the ground before the catcher did. a simultaneous catch would qualify as the other player did not touch it before.

We assume different things. That's why we need the law to make the call.

 

[Browner]

I thought Hogg played well in a beaten team.

He's hoping the grandparent rule will be extended by a couple of generations so that he could switch to Ireland !

 

[Browner]

Mmmm. :chin: To me "clean" just means he didn't fumble it.

As "clean" isn't defined in the lawbook, I suppose it will mean different things to different referees.

I could never accept that a 'shared/simultaneous catch' was a clean catch. IMO the purpose of the 'Mark' law is to protect the catcher from being lined up & smashed whilst he's awaiting the ball to arrive from the sky. Catchers have "in the air" protection from being tackled so therefore all my fair play says that whenever/If an opponent isn't trying to 'level you' [by instead jumping to try & gain possession] you no longer need the 'Mark law' ....... & because you still get it then I'm expecting to see you CLEARLY get SOLE possession after the jump [& gather] before you get unnecessary Mark protection form me.

 

[chbg]

well there'll be a SA Referees perspective on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuM3UypSkEc&list=UUgQXAHdKEU0AA-mx-tGRnxQ

 

[OB..]

IMO the purpose of the 'Mark' law is to protect the catcher from being lined up & smashed whilst he's awaiting the ball to arrive from the sky.

Since we have a law against tackling a player in the air, the Mark is not needed to provide that protection.

It could be ruled either way, and we have little or nothing to go on for a definitive answer.

 

[Rushforth]

Since we have a law against tackling a player in the air, the Mark is not needed to provide that protection.

It could be ruled either way, and we have little or nothing to go on for a definitive answer.

I was under the impression that only relatively recently could a mark be taken whilst in the air, as opposed to ... marking it.

 

[Browner]

Even the chasing players accept the catch as good here

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WGGamdKnVpg

 

[Browner]

Inspired by CJ, I called one of these in a recent L9 match, got a collective :holysheep:from both sets of players and all spectators ... Thanks C !

 

[Ian_Cook]

But is a clean catch 'clean' when two people catch it at the same time?

It can be

For mine, a clean catch is caught without the ball being fumbled or juggled.

Interesting comments on clean catches from SA Referees

http://www.sareferees.com/laws/view/2830419/

http://www.sareferees.com/laws/view/2829992/