Mark from a fly hack?

[nicfloyd]

I've read law 17 but does a mark have to be from a kick out of hand? If a ball is fly hacked off the ground and travels into the 22, can it be marked?

 

[Decorily]

I can'tthink of any reason not to award it if all other criteria are met.

 

[Balones]

yes. A kick is a kick.

 

[nicfloyd]

So someone kicking a ball in that fashion satisfies 'directly catching an opponents kick'? A grubber kick into the ground doesn't satisfy it so a ball already on the ground - what's the difference?

 

[Volun-selected]

So someone kicking a ball in that fashion satisfies 'directly catching an opponents kick'? A grubber kick into the ground doesn't satisfy it so a ball already on the ground - what's the difference?

Not quite, as I read it. The definition has:

Directly caught: A ball caught without first touching anyone else or the ground.​

So, if toed off the ground and into the 22 but doesn’t touch anyone or the ground, a mark is possible. A grubber would invalidate the option to call mark and the first bounce.

 

[Dixpat]

Catching a drop kick?

 

[Ciaran Trainor]

yes. A kick is a kick.

Agree, no different to a drop Kick which is also kicked when the ball is touching the floor.

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

A kick is a kick. You can call a mark from a PK (at the posts or otherwise). Although when I was coaching my lad's U14 side a referee we said you couldn't.

I wonder what he's doing now??

 

[Stu10]

I would argue that for both a fly hack and a drop kick, the ball leaves the ground first and then leaves the kicking foot last, therefore the ball can be caught directly from an opponent's kick; whereas a grubber clearly makes contact with the ground between the kicker and the catcher.

A kick is a kick. You can call a mark from a PK (at the posts or otherwise). Although when I was coaching my lad's U14 side a referee we said you couldn't.

I wonder what he's doing now??

Maybe he got confused with not being able to call a mark from a kick-off or restart after a score?

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

I would argue that for both a fly hack and a drop kick, the ball leaves the ground first and then leaves the kicking foot last, therefore the ball can be caught directly from an opponent's kick; whereas a grubber clearly makes contact with the ground between the kicker and the catcher.


Maybe he got confused with not being able to call a mark from a kick-off or restart after a score?

How diplomatic Stu 10. That's just what our fullback (who caught the ball and squealed "mark") thought as the referee allowed him to get twatted! I felt somewhat culpable as I was the one who told the boys, arranging themselves under/behind the posts, to catch it if it fell short (as I guessed - correctly - it would) and call mark. We were winning and it would allow us to clear our lines under a bit less pressure (depending who caught it! )

I should've just shut up and let them play - a little knowledge and all that. Still, a little bit more than the referee eh?.

 

[crossref]

Anyway - at age group level - a referee shouldn't let a player who genuinely thinks he has a mark then get unexpectedly twatted --- it's dangerous.

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

Anyway - at age group level - a referee shouldn't let a player who genuinely thinks he has a mark then get unexpectedly twatted --- it's dangerous.

Indeed.

 

[tim White]

- a little knowledge and all that. Still, a little bit more than the referee eh?.

We all think like that.