MLR law trials

[buff]

I have reservations about the limit of two scrums per incident.

https://torontoarrows.com/news/mlr-...l-uM0T59lzStaaXggubPdoaK8jZaFeXbiLAkX7kv60OJI

 

[Balones]

My immediate thought.
I would think lines drawn perpendicular from the posts will be required to help the ref and stop arguments.
On the line = inside the posts? - or not?

 

[didds]

My immediate thought.
I would think lines drawn perpendicular from the posts will be required to help the ref and stop arguments.
On the line = inside the posts? - or not?

yup... my first thought was - ANOTHER line call.

Now maybe a narriw call mistakenly made doesnt really affect the ability to complete the extra 2 points... but if the intention is to save time then we cant have fraffing about with TMOs/slow mos/reviews or whatever, and a conversion required call etc doesnt save the time needed.

Likely not a biggy.

That 2 sctums per incident thing is needing more flesh on the bone... so what happens after two collapses? Or the 2nd scrum ends in a FK/PK but now a side has lost a tactical option of scrum again.

 

[SimonSmith]

Thank God I’ve left the USA and don’t have to deal with this crap.

 

[damo]

I like the between the posts change.

I don't foresee any real issues with a ref making the call.

 

[Zebra1922]

My immediate thought.
I would think lines drawn perpendicular from the posts will be required to help the ref and stop arguments.
On the line = inside the posts? - or not?

The referee is the sole judge of fact. Doesn’t matter if the platters agree or not and want to argue. Make the call. It doesn’t need painted lines.

 

[didds]

given a kick in the frnt of the psts is "a given", and so is a kick 1m to the side of the posts. Why not make that a wider "box" ?

I suspect the answer is coming up with a width that is meaninfgful in this regard and where then lines WOULD have to be provided AND line calls DO become pertinent.

maybe if the idea is to speed up the time taken for conversions, they should be made drop kicks (CF the restart/kick off changes made several years ago) ?

 

[Not Kurt Weaver]

No one has a reservation with this MLR variation ?
#4 on list
The offside line will be the feed line/channel of the scrum to allow for unimpeded access to the ball at the back of the scrum for the attacking team.

 

[Dickie E]

No one has a reservation with this MLR variation ?
#4 on list
The offside line will be the feed line/channel of the scrum to allow for unimpeded access to the ball at the back of the scrum for the attacking team.

for clarity, no doubt we are referring to the opposing SH. I'm good with it, allows team in possession good opportunity to clear ball. Long overdue.

 

[chbg]

No one has a reservation with this MLR variation ?
#4 on list
The offside line will be the feed line/channel of the scrum to allow for unimpeded access to the ball at the back of the scrum for the attacking team.

It is an Under 15 Regulation in England. Says it all really.

 

[damo]

No one has a reservation with this MLR variation ?
#4 on list
The offside line will be the feed line/channel of the scrum to allow for unimpeded access to the ball at the back of the scrum for the attacking team.

Our juniors play like that, unless it has changed recently. It does allow for the ball to get out of the scrum easier.

Not sure about whether it is necessary for seniors though.

 

[crossref]

a lot of the time the opposing SH then might consider retreating to the back foot, and then is free to move sideways across the pitch, if needed, with the aim of being first up tackler.

He can be a lot closer to the oppo 10 then his open side flanker can.


meanwhile, it will be interesting to see if the ball DOES get away more quickly. Might the lack of pressure lead scrum half to mess about with the ball at the back, weighing up options, with plenty of time?

 

[thepercy]

Thank God I’ve left the USA and don’t have to deal with this crap.

If, you were on the MLR panel or refereeing in the ARC you would have to deal with (the crap) Law Trials, but I don't think you were/are, so really nothing to deal with.

This likely only effects a dozen or so referees in all of the Americas.

 

[thepercy]

for clarity, no doubt we are referring to the opposing SH. I'm good with it, allows team in possession good opportunity to clear ball. Long overdue.

The negative here is that our Professional/International SHs will not be ready for the pressure in non-MLR/ARC matches. Not sure it really adds anything, other than for teams that aren't good at securing their scrums.

 

[thepercy]

a lot of the time the opposing SH then might consider retreating to the back foot, and then is free to move sideways across the pitch, if needed, with the aim of being first up tackler.

He can be a lot closer to the oppo 10 then his open side flanker can.


meanwhile, it will be interesting to see if the ball DOES get away more quickly. Might the lack of pressure lead scrum half to mess about with the ball at the back, weighing up options, with plenty of time?

"Use it!"

 

[thepercy]

My immediate thought.
I would think lines drawn perpendicular from the posts will be required to help the ref and stop arguments.
On the line = inside the posts? - or not?

Just watched the highlights from the weekend, can confirm there are lines.

 

[SimonSmith]

If, you were on the MLR panel or refereeing in the ARC you would have to deal with (the crap) Law Trials, but I don't think you were/are, so really nothing to deal with.

This likely only effects a dozen or so referees in all of the Americas.

This will trickle down and players will ask about playing to those variations. Coaches were still asking about HIA in the last season played.

These are solutions in search of a problem, and aren’t necessary. Falkland’s adage applies.

 

[Balones]

Just watched the highlights from the weekend, can confirm there are lines.

Thanks for update.
Now the second part of the question, is on the line inside or out?

 

[didds]

perhaps the unwritten rule is if it's that close its given as in, as a conversion from that close to "the line" will be kicked anyway ... ??

 

[buff]

Just watched the highlights from the weekend, can confirm there are lines.

I watched some of the Toronto-Atlanta game at Life University, and I don't think I saw any.