No advantage for high tackles?

[Flish]

I need to find some context for this, but a message I’ve heard twice from my society in the last month, is there a new directive somewhere?

For age grade or serious foul play / head contact stuff I get it, but I’ve always felt comfortable playing advantage for the ‘lesser’ but technically high tackles, especially with the reduced height last season in RFU land - anyone heard similar?

 

[Marc Wakeham]

In Wales at age range, any foul play ( i always interpret foul play as 9.11 onwards (i.e not for offences like "repeated offences" such as offsides 9.9) means no advantage. That includes the reduced hight high tackles.

Of course, if the offence occurs in the act of a try being scored, processing the incident may mean that the award of the try may come first.
Also I will referee the teams in front of me and I may "manage" the situation "off book" as it were depending on the nature of the foul play. I'd not advise an inexperienced ref to follow suit.

 

[Decorily]

In Wales at age range, any foul play ( i always interpret foul play as 9.11 onwards (i.e not for offences like "repeated offences" such as offsides 9.9) means no advantage.

Good point.....

 

[didds]

I need to find some context for this, but a message I’ve heard twice from my society in the last month, is there a new directive somewhere?

Id suggest if you have heard this from your society, they are the body to go and ask for a definitive edict.

Maybe it was a secret email...

 

[crossref]

this will be advice, rather than an edict.
advantage after dangerous play creates a potential flashpoint : "if the ref isn't going to deal with it, I will" type of thing.

so if you do play advantage after dangerous play it needs to be short (like everyone can see the player is going to score regardless) and you need loud comms ("seen it, playing adv, I'll deal with it") so that they know you are on it, and not ignoring it.

TBH - most of the time it's better to blow and give the PK.

 

[Flish]

this will be advice, rather than an edict.
advantage after dangerous play creates a potential flashpoint : "if the ref isn't going to deal with it, I will" type of thing.

so if you do play advantage after dangerous play it needs to be short (like everyone can see the player is going to score regardless) and you need loud comms ("seen it, playing adv, I'll deal with it") so that they know you are on it, and not ignoring it.

TBH - most of the time it's better to blow and give the PK.

Pretty much what I do anyway, if there's a chance of a reaction I blow up. I'll explore it tonight as it's from my coach for the game, see what his expectations are

 

[Flish]

So the answer was one best practice, with the logic at higher levels players are prepared and expecting the quick tap opportunity.

I didn’t do much different to normal, tried it, seemed to work so assessor happy

 

[Marc Wakeham]

I always say to team that "I'll let them play if they want to. But if they want to "deal with things themselves we will have a game of scrums and penalties wit hzero advantage. Let's see who get board first."

Most buy into it.