Protocol awarding PT

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Premiership final, 5 mins in Matt Carley awards a PT in the corner .. even before he has blown the whistle he is running away from the scene (in the corner) in order to (as the law requires ) get under the posts to award the try.

And then subsequently comes back to the scene to issue the YC
 
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Premiership final, 5 mins in Matt Carley awards a PT in the corner .. even before he has blown the whistle he is running away from the scene (in the corner) in order to (as the law requires ) get under the posts to award the try.

And then subsequently comes back to the scene to issue the YC

Did he look cool or silly?
 

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Premiership final, 5 mins in Matt Carley awards a PT in the corner .. even before he has blown the whistle he is running away from the scene (in the corner) in order to (as the law requires ) get under the posts to award the try.

And then subsequently comes back to the scene to issue the YC

Nothing unusual there was there? The call was reasonable, he / the team got the number of the player, so under the sticks and card issued, or am I missing something?
 

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Flish;374846d said:
......or am I missing something?

Unfortunately I think you may be missing something alright....
I think the OP may have an axe to grind. .....again!
 
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Maybe it needed to be closed!
 

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Shrug , many of the responses last time were to the effect that no decent ref ever starts off by running away from the action, it's reffing 101 to stay where you are and deal with any fallout and YC ... And only then stroll over to the posts.

So interesting to see the opposite (again)

I'll keep watching :wink:
 
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Anyone care to venture a theory as to WHY the first thing that MC did was to run off away from the action ?
 

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Comparing Apples with Oranges though aren’t you? Wasn’t there a flare up / handbags to deal with then? Here there’s no suggestion of that, he has an AR as close to the situation as him, so not really running away from anything?

I wouldn’t do that, just in case, but I don’t get back up
 

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Yes, it worked out OK this time.
But why don't we just change the Law to remove the requirement to be under the posts ...
 

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But why don't we just change the Law to remove the requirement to be under the posts ...

Why, it does it’s job of communicating the decision to the crowd? The only problem (which you seem to see more than most) is the point in time when the ref chooses to make that signal? If some refs are prioritising the signal of other duties then that can be managed in feedback / mentoring - assuming others see the problem.

I learnt through experience not to be in a hurry to head to the posts, but again Apples vs Oranges, I’m on my own.
 

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Yes, but change the sequence and everyone is left not knowing the all important thing .. what is the decision?

Every other time you blow the whistle you immediately make a primary signal (for good reasons)
 

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Yes, but change the sequence and everyone is left not knowing the all important thing .. what is the decision?

Every other time you blow the whistle you immediately make a primary signal (for good reasons)

I think you’re looking for a problem to a solution!

If someone goes down with a serious injury is your first instinct arm out for a scrum restart? If it all kicks off and fists everywhere do you signal a penalty? No, you probably, at best whistle time off / stop play in appropriate form, deal with the primary issue, then when appropriate signal. Same here
 

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..and yet not, as the last two PT I have seen, first thing the ref did was run off to make primary signal ...

My simple idea is to change the signal, so that you t can be made on the spot, without having to move elsewhere

I will say no more and continue watching how PT are handled
 

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So far I have never seen a situation where I thought it mattered. The current signal plus location is clear to all, and the referee makes the judgement as to whether there is something more urgent to deal with first.

Delaying the signal does not matter.

The only time you are likely to to get confusion is when the relevant play is actually under the posts, and even then the automatic card will clarify the situation..

We already have 53 official signals. I see no value in adding another.
 

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We already have 53 official signals. I see no value in adding another.

Adding ? We already have a special signal for PT, I am merely suggesting changing it, so that it can be awarded wherever the referee is standing
 

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How about this one

I reckon that the ability to award a PT where you are standing would have useful for that ref
 
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I did warn you all. It's a pity that when you put someone on ignore, you see their posts quoted.
 
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