Potentially about to form.But in general play a maul is about to form once you have a ball carrier and an opponent in contact and a team mate in the vicinity
Of course they can.so the ball carrier cannot pop a pass out to a receiver then?
Yes you are correct.My understanding of the long transfer was the jumper at a lineout brings the ball down and holds it at arms length away, one of his/her teammates then takes the ball and then drives forward into the initial ball carrier (who should be offside now as he wasn't in contact when the ball was transfered) blocking the opponents
Ie, it's not the long pass that is a problemOf course they can.
This is simply about obstruction in the act of forming a maul.
Look at it this way then....if in your scenario (pop to receiver) the receiver then ran back to the bunch of teammates in front of him and bound onto them preventing the opposition from getting to the ball carrier what would you consider that? Obstruction, accidental offside...something else?
I kinda read crossref's post to hint at that that either a maul is formed or it's not - there's no in between (at least from the laws perspective). If it's not formed yet, then the scenario he described is equivalent to the scenario you're speaking about.
I am not saying there is an 'in-between '.I kinda read crossref's post to hint at that that either a maul is formed or it's not - there's no in between (at least from the laws perspective). If it's not formed yet, then the scenario he described is equivalent to the scenario you're speaking about.
... or potenbtailly about to reecive a pass.Potentially about to form.
If for instance multiple support players arrive and the ball carrier 'long' passes the ball to one of the support players who has one or two teammates in front then there may potentially be an obstruction scenario to be considered.