U’15s lineout …. In the spirit of the game or not ? ….. how to defend it ??

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that's not my understanding. AFAIK the ref is supposed to call "use it" and they have 5 sec (?) to play the ball away. The logic is that they shouldn't be pinged for the opposition failing to engag
Isn't that when they remain stationary?
If they start moving they are accidentally offside
 

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Australia Rugby's excellent Refereeing in Practice guide has a section on this:

Teams deciding not to engage the maul at lineout

# If the defenders in the line out choose to not engage the line out drive by
leaving the line out as a group, then PK to attacking team.
# If the defenders in the line out choose to not engage the line out drive by
simply opening up a gap and creating space, and not leaving the line out,
the following process should be followed:

# The attacking team would need to keep the ball with the front
player if they were to drive down-field (therefore play on, general
play – defenders could either engage to form a maul, or tackle the ball
carrier.)I
# If the attacking team immediately passes the ball back to a player
behind the front player or at the rear of the group, the referee would
tell them to “Use it” which they must do immediately.
# If the team drives forward with the ball at the back (and ignores
the referee’s call to “Use it”), the referee should award a scrum
to the defending team for “accidental offside” (rather than PK for
obstruction).

Here's the link [PDF]

 

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# The attacking team would need to keep the ball with the front player if they were to drive down-field (therefore play on, general play – defenders could either engage to form a maul, or tackle the ball carrier.)I
Nice framework, and ties in with what I understand.

One question I have is that if the team in possession bind on to the ball carrier as they land in anticipation of the usual competition, if they move forward then that would be a flying wedge, yes?

So, if the BC lands and starts to drive then the team would need to be aware enough to release any grip so no more than one player remains latched. How long should be give the attackers to reconfigure to release the BC or go to a BC +1? Or is it only an issue once the accidental wedge runs into the defenders so they have until that contact to get unwedged?
 

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Nice framework, and ties in with what I understand.

One question I have is that if the team in possession bind on to the ball carrier as they land in anticipation of the usual competition, if they move forward then that would be a flying wedge, yes?

So, if the BC lands and starts to drive then the team would need to be aware enough to release any grip so no more than one player remains latched. How long should be give the attackers to reconfigure to release the BC or go to a BC +1? Or is it only an issue once the accidental wedge runs into the defenders so they have until that contact to get unwedged?
It is a scenario that needs to be managed promptly.
It is not deemed to be a flying wedge initially and should be managed according to the above post. Blow it up prior to contact for safety reasons if management attempts fail.
 

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very good, I like that and thanks for providing. Can rely on the boys in Oz to make sense of it 😉
 

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very good, I like that and thanks for providing. Can rely on the boys in Oz to make sense of it 😉

This was also circulated as an RFU advice document. I think it originally came from World Rugby Law Application Guidelines.
 
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