Locke

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Please help me wrap my head around the technicalities of the law here and how it is refereed in practice. I’ve tried to find other discussions of this but haven’t felt that I’ve found a full explanation.
Red player takes ball into contact. Blue player makes a tackle. One red support player and one additional blue player arrive almost simultaneously; they make contact and form a ruck. Red player in ruck drives blue player in ruck backward out of the ruck area. There is now no one on their feet in the ruck area.
I read in the law nothing that indicates the ruck is now over. But I’ve also seen discussion that no one new can enter the ruck because they have no one to bind to. How does this ruck end? Obviously someone will have to play the ball but,
1. Why isn’t anyone playing the ball here penalized for using hands in the ruck?
2. Can red pick it up, assuming ball carrier placed back on their side?
3. What it if ball carrier didn’t place and no one appears to have won the ball?
4. Does blue now have any way to come away with the ball in this ruck?
Any answers to these questions or any other insight is appreciated.
Red player takes ball into contact. Blue player makes a tackle. One red support player and one additional blue player arrive almost simultaneously; they make contact and form a ruck. Red player in ruck drives blue player in ruck backward out of the ruck area. There is now no one on their feet in the ruck area.
I read in the law nothing that indicates the ruck is now over. But I’ve also seen discussion that no one new can enter the ruck because they have no one to bind to. How does this ruck end? Obviously someone will have to play the ball but,
1. Why isn’t anyone playing the ball here penalized for using hands in the ruck?
2. Can red pick it up, assuming ball carrier placed back on their side?
3. What it if ball carrier didn’t place and no one appears to have won the ball?
4. Does blue now have any way to come away with the ball in this ruck?
Any answers to these questions or any other insight is appreciated.