What was this decision for?

breako


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Was watching this earlier, can't understand what the first penalty is for. Ball looks out to me:

Youtube clip is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_UkFTSkDQQ

It can't be 16.4.e
"A player must not fall on or over the ball as it is coming out of a ruck." as ball is clearly out

Was the white player who fell on the ball coming from an offside position, possibly but the signal looks for going to ground.

Any ideas?
 

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hands on the ground beyond the ball by 3. He is clearly not supporting his own body weight. NO is better sighted from his side.
 
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Yes, I think it was for white #3 off feet. Noting that it's pretty hard to stay on your feet when you've got 2 or 3 opponents' weight on your back.
 

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You just have to see his body positioning to see he is not supporting his own body weight by his own action rather than that of the arriving player,
 

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Interestingly, the WHITE tackler here ... https://youtu.be/o_UkFTSkDQQ?t=23 gets to his feet but DOES NOT observe the new 'gate only' jackalling - yet NO seems happy to ignore his & award a PK to White

thoughts?
 

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i think nigel jones could see more than clip shows .
because from video it looks like a harsh penalty .

also alan wyn jones obstucting in ruck .
 

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White player (6) who dives on the ball is not onside at the ruck but NO's signal confounds me except:

Law 14.1(c) A player without the ball must not lie on, over, or near the ball to prevent opponents getting possession of it.Sanction: Penalty kick


​But the whistle came so quick he had no time to execute any option so diving on the ball must have been his offence.
 
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It was a November 2015 match!! See the video description.

Oh that minor detail,

note to self, read description 1st ! doh - thks
 
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