No.Can anyone direct me a simple explanation of when the ball is in touch? Especially when players are close to the touch-line.
Can anyone direct me a simple explanation of when the ball is in touch? Especially when players are close to the touch-line.
And from where!And as if deciding if the ball is or isn't in touch isn't tricky enough, you've then got to decide who put it there
are you referring perhaps to a specific situation? Such as a ball being kicked to touch and the defending player catchingbknocking the ball back into play?Can anyone direct me a simple explanation of when the ball is in touch? Especially when players are close to the touch-line.
Indeed, and some situations (especially where the plane of touch is involved) are Impossible to judge accurately from the middle of the pitch, so require a AR ... which we grass roots refs don't have, so we are forced to guessThis has become another one of those areas of the game that have been made so complicated that I rarely criticise a ref for a law error unless it is obvious -I tend to concentrate on HOW they managed the situation.
If it's any consolation, I had a brain fart last Sunday and awarded a 22 drop out instead of a GLD... no one questioned it, surprisingly.I've started ARing in the National Leagues and I'm just waiting to balls it up!
what was the scenario?If it's any consolation, I had a brain fart last Sunday and awarded a 22 drop out instead of a GLD... no one questioned it, surprisingly.
We all have them brain farts but sounds like you made a decision and sold it.Ball kicked from FOP and stopped in goal, defender touched down.
It was not my best game with the whistle last week, not thinking as quickly as usual for some reason (before anyone asks, I was not drinking the night before). I think more shouting than usual from the sideline also distracted me a little, which isn't normally a problem. However, it did leave me wondering if I'm ready for the increased speed of a senior game, which I've been thinking (for a long time) I should put my hand up for, maybe the club 4th team.
a lot of the schools that we cover we grade the 1st XV at 8. The best teams are L6Ball kicked from FOP and stopped in goal, defender touched down.
It was not my best game with the whistle last week, not thinking as quickly as usual for some reason (before anyone asks, I was not drinking the night before). I think more shouting than usual from the sideline also distracted me a little, which isn't normally a problem. However, it did leave me wondering if I'm ready for the increased speed of a senior game, which I've been thinking (for a long time) I should put my hand up for, maybe the club 4th team.
I don't know the reason for OP asking this question, but there was an incident in the past 10 days (I think the Autumn internationals) in which, after a penalty kick for touch, a player jumped and knocked the ball back into the FOP and was told that it didn't count because he knocked it back into play and he had to fully catch it. This left me puzzled, but I don't know whether the player started in or out of the FOP, or whether the ball crossed the plane of touch.
Law 18
2) The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:
a) The ball reaches the plane of touch but is caught, knocked or kicked by a player who is in the playing area.b) A player jumps, from within or outside the playing area, and catches the ball, and then lands in the playing area, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.c) A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.d) A player, who is in touch, kicks or knocks the ball, but does not hold it, provided it has not reached the plane of touch.
I assume the player started outside the FOP (eliminating a and c), the ball crossed the plane of touch (eliminating d) and since he knocked it back in play and did not catch it (and then land in the FOP) then b does not apply... result is a lineout.
Hi all, I'm new round here, been lurking every now and then.However, it did leave me wondering if I'm ready for the increased speed of a senior game, which I've been thinking (for a long time) I should put my hand up for, maybe the club 4th team.