Where are you this weekend? - 2024/25

[Marc Wakeham]

Interesting, so if he's on the team-sheet do you just go home? does he play in areas outside of your society jurisdiction?

We are instructed (and the membership of our society voted 100% on this) To tell the coach that it is society policy not to referee if he is playing. They then can make a call Remove him or we walk. I do not know whether other societies have agreed to follow our policy. He has served him time (both disciplinary and UK prison) for his offences.

 

[smeagol]

Local club side is hosting a 5-team 10s tournament. Will be the second time I have ever refereed 10s (officially)

Springfield (IL) Celts
Springfield (MO) Mudpuppies
Illinois State University
Sunday Morning (out of St Louis)
Edwardsville Mercenaries

 

[Decorily]

He has served him time (both disciplinary and UK prison) for his offences.

If he has served his time why is he being further punished?

 

[Marc Wakeham]

If he has served his time why is he being further punished?

Multiple assaults on referees. One ban was 96 weeks the latest was 192 weeks

 

[Decorily]

Multiple assaults on referees. One ban was 96 weeks the latest was 192 weeks

What's the delay with the life ban??

 

[Marc Wakeham]

What's the delay with the life ban??

I've no idea. I was not present at the hearing

 

[Volun-selected]

I've no idea. I was not present at the hearing

So not boycotting a player but enforcing a union issued sanction?

 

[Marc Wakeham]

So not boycotting a player but enforcing a union issued sanction?

Where do you get that from? From my first post on the subject: "He has served him time (both disciplinary and UK prison) for his offences."

 

[Shelflife]

I've noticed talk of payments here.

What do the Welsh, Scottish and English refs get for reffing your standard amateur games both adult and underage ?

We don't get paid and only get 35c per km for milage.

 

[Mipper]

I've noticed talk of payments here.

What do the Welsh, Scottish and English refs get for reffing your standard amateur games both adult and underage ?

We don't get paid and only get 35c per km for milage.

UK community rugby 45p per mile (roughly the same? I can't bothered to work it out).
Plus kit.
Plus drink and food at most (not all) clubs.

 

[Volun-selected]

Where do you get that from? From my first post on the subject: "He has served him time (both disciplinary and UK prison) for his offences."

‘Cos I misunderstood/missed it.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

UK community rugby 45p per mile (roughly the same? I can't bothered to work it out).
Plus kit.
Plus drink and food at most (not all) clubs.

I can't speak for the UK but I can for Wales.

We get a £20 match fee and £0.45 a mile subject to a minimum milage of £10. S owe get a minimum of £30 a game. That is for league / cup (paid by the union) and for Friendlies (paid by the club).
Clubs are "expected" to offer a drink. Food is not "compulsory". I've never not been offered both.

Kit wise, we get two shirts every other season and shorts and socks. other stash (tracksuits / bags / t shirts) from time to time

 

[Mipper]

Yes, I should have clarified 'England'

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

I've noticed talk of payments here.

What do the Welsh, Scottish and English refs get for reffing your standard amateur games both adult and underage ?

We don't get paid and only get 35c per km for milage.

We get paid on the NLMOT ie L4 & L3. Refs and ARs. L3s get more than L4s.

It's PAYE (I get a P60 from the RFU ) so I get bugger all after Rachel Reeves has had her bit.

We get 45p per mile.

We usually get a drink and some snap.

We've got four match shirts and loads of other stash.

If I referee lower level stuff it's 45p per mile and fed and " watered" usually.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Our match fees go up as you move up the national leagues or as you move towards the later rounds of cups. Only a handful of our refs a pro and employed by the union for the rest of us any tax is our problem. That is why the £0.45 a mile is the limit for mileage as it the the "tax" figure.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Yes, I should have clarified 'England'

Indeed.

 

[Ciaran Trainor]

As others have said, 45p per mile in England all claimed via whose the ref every months which works really well.
Always fed at clubs and 95% watered. (the ones who don't offer me a beer will not get a vote for the end of season Golden Whistle award this year it was Windermere BTW)
I rarely charge full mileage and luckily can do plenty of my fixtures on train. As long as I'm not out of pocket, I'm happy.
We actually pay £15 membership to our society but get plenty of stash.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

A lot of our clubs now put a few energy drinks in the changing roon along with chocolate. Two even provide towels!

 

[Shelflife]

Cheers lads.

Interesting to hear what you get.

We get one set of match kit, this year we got whistles flags and card holders, prior to this year you had to go looking for the whistles flags and card holders.

Some clubs better than others at looking after us post match, some are great and some you'd get nothing, its something that the association are looking to improve so that we at least get a cuppa and a sandwich.

The national panel refs get paid (and taxed on it) for games that the they are appointed to by the IRFU.

 

[Mipper]

Cheers lads.

Interesting to hear what you get.

We get one set of match kit, this year we got whistles flags and card holders, prior to this year you had to go looking for the whistles flags and card holders.

Some clubs better than others at looking after us post match, some are great and some you'd get nothing, its something that the association are looking to improve so that we at least get a cuppa and a sandwich.

The national panel refs get paid (and taxed on it) for games that the they are appointed to by the IRFU.

In my neck of the woods (SE England) the two clubs that provide nothing are very much the self-important clubs anyway, one is the top club in these parts anyway and the other behaves as if they are!

Not strictly true but some of the friendliest clubs are those lower down the pyramid.