You can't go quick 2nd time

[crossref]

Luke Pearce 71 mins Saracens v Quins

No, you can't go quick 2nd time

 

[Decorily]

Maybe he meant 'I'm not letting you go quick ' as opposed to "you can't "

 

[Stu10]

Yeah, even my son spotted that... urban/rugby myth carried on by elite level ref... a bit of a concern IMHO!

He did specifically say "No, you can't go quick 2nd time"

 

[Decorily]

Yeah, even my son spotted that... urban/rugby myth carried on by elite level ref... a bit of a concern IMHO!

He did specifically say "No, you can't go quick 2nd time"

Great.....that'll make life easier in the weeds next week!

 

[Locke]

The laws say that the 2nd penalty can’t be taken until the referee has made the mark.
I couldn’t find the complete game footage but in the highlights I saw Luke Pierce was issuing a yellow card here. It’s possible since he was dealing with the card, he hadn’t made the mark yet?

 

[Stu10]

The laws say that the 2nd penalty can’t be taken until the referee has made the mark.
I couldn’t find the complete game footage but in the highlights I saw Luke Pierce was issuing a yellow card here. It’s possible since he was dealing with the card, he hadn’t made the mark yet?

I think LP's choice of words is the issue here... if he stopped them and said "No, you can't go until I've given you the mark" it would have been better.

 

[Locke]

Fair. Personally, I don’t like to make the mark the second time until at least most of the offending team is back 10. For me, letting it go immediately again and again has often devolved into messy, negative play.

 

[Stu10]

Personally I won't wait for the defence to sort themselves out, but I don't hurry to make the second mark... most of the time this scenario is offside after the first quick tap, so I go at "casual stroll" speed as I move 10m up the pitch... I think it provides the defence enough time, and if they still aren't ready then it's on them.

 

[crossref]

I think LP's choice of words is the issue here... if he stopped them and said "No, you can't go until I've given you the mark" it would have been better.

it would be good to find the video (someone? it's 71 mins game time)
my recollection is that he had finished dealing with the YC, and returned to the mark.
(but wasn't ready )

 

[Volun-selected]

Personally I won't wait for the defence to sort themselves out, but I don't hurry to make the second mark... most of the time this scenario is offside after the first quick tap, so I go at "casual stroll" speed as I move 10m up the pitch... I think it provides the defence enough time, and if they still aren't ready then it's on them.

This pretty much sums up my approach - maybe more urgent than stroll but certainly not a jog. Most teams I ref will be yelling “back 10!” at each other, as they are now sensitized to it.

 

[Dickie E]

it would be good to find the video (someone? it's 71 mins game time)
my recollection is that he had finished dealing with the YC, and returned to the mark.
(but wasn't ready )

let me youtube that for you:

 

[crossref]

watch from here -- for about a minute

 

[didds]

Oh dear. Thats pretty definitive.

 

[Phil E]

Thanks a lot Luke

Next week...you have to let him up!

 

[crossref]

Perhaps good game management is : you can't take a 2nd one quickly

 

[Phil E]

Perhaps good game management is : you can't take a 2nd one quickly

No, good game management is to stick to the wording in the law book. So don't make a mark until you're ready to go.

Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in
front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken
before the referee has made the mark.

 

[crossref]

No, good game management is to stick to the wording in the law book. So don't make a mark until you're ready to go.

Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in
front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken
before the referee has made the mark.

I will @ him

 

[Phil E]

I will @ him

And ask him what?