European Rugby Champions Cup : Munster v Saracens

[L'irlandais]

Not a very spectacular match.
Rhys Gill's Yellow card offence can be seen 1 minute into these very short highlights. :noyc:
( He was was sin-binned for an illegal lift on CJ Stander, at the breakdown )

Anybody feel in could/should have been red, as it was certainly dangerous play.

 

[Browner]

Not a very spectacular match.
Rhys Gill's Yellow card offence can be seen 1 minute into these very short highlights. :noyc:
( He was was sin-binned for an illegal lift on CJ Stander, at the breakdown )

Anybody feel in could/should have been red, as it was certainly dangerous play.

YC looked correct to me, but wouldn't have been overly surprised to have seen RC issued (based on lift tackle criteria)

 

[OB..]

Red for me.

 

[Dixie]

Anybody feel in could/should have been red, as it was certainly dangerous play.

The difficulty is that elite rugby has connived in this practice. Why is it not ALWAYS illegal to use a judo technique to take a man to ground when he doesn't have the ball? Having allowed what is always illegal, the game is hypocritical if it starts red carding players for doing it.

I suspect that the YC decision arose (remember, it was a TMO referral, so well viewed in retrospect) because Gill had no way of knowing his target was also being lifted (or at least supported as a fulcrum) by his team mate. But could easily have been red.

 

[RobLev]

The difficulty is that elite rugby has connived in this practice. Why is it not ALWAYS illegal to use a judo technique to take a man to ground when he doesn't have the ball? Having allowed what is always illegal, the game is hypocritical if it starts red carding players for doing it.

I suspect that the YC decision arose (remember, it was a TMO referral, so well viewed in retrospect) because Gill had no way of knowing his target was also being lifted (or at least supported as a fulcrum) by his team mate. But could easily have been red.

I can't work out whether there was anything remotely legal about either the intention or the execution. He's not even got the excuse that he's clearing the victim out of the ruck - he dropped him right in the middle of it. It's irrelevant whether he knew that his team-mate was acting similarly illegally the other side of the victim. RC for Gill - and a YC for his accomplice.

 

[Pegleg]

Red without a doubt for me.