shebeen
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ok, let's say we run with it not being a tackle then if you want.There will always be grey areas, even in the most simple decisions, humans interpret things differently according to our life exposure and the prejudice and bias we accumulate, it's a fact of life and what makes us interesting.
And?
Tackle requires:
Don't see that test case being met.
- For a tackle to occur, the ball-carrier is held and brought to ground by one or more opponents.
- Being brought to ground means that the ball-carrier is lying, sitting or has at least one knee on the ground or on another player who is on the ground.
- Being held means that a tackler must continue holding the ball-carrier until the ball-carrier is on the ground.
Can we go to Law 13, or is there another interpretation you can bring in?
13 Players on the ground in open play
- Principle
The game is played only by players who are on their feet. - Players, who go to ground to gather the ball or who go to ground with the ball, must immediately:
- Get up with the ball; or
- Play (but not kick) the ball; or
- Release the ball.
- Sanction: Penalty.
Off feet: Players are off their feet when any other part of the body is supported by the ground or players on the ground.
One can see it from a video. I linked a YT video, you couldn't play it. I showed stills from the video. You then showed stills (presumably from a video?). If not, and you can still somehow not see a video of this, just take my word that there is no momentum.You cannot see momentum from a still image.
We can go back to NO intepretation of him giving his opinion while not passing verdict on the incident so to remain neutral on referee decisions for his Whistle Watch videos.
Reviewing the incident on the latest edition of Whistle Watch, his weekly Test rugby series, Owens said: “If we look at Sipili Falatea’s try in the France-South Africa game late on, people have been asking why isn’t this double movement?
“Well, it is a very, very interesting one and I have to say it is a very, very difficult one to judge as well because what you certainly have is a ball carrier who may not be tackled but is in a position where he is not supporting his weight.
“If you felt that he was tackled or he was on the ground, he is only then allowed to place out in one movement. So if you felt there was another movement and another movement whilst he was on the ground then you would be looking at the try being disallowed.
after the game, no that was Du Pont. This is what BO'K has to say about that on recollection four months later.a) But Galthie did *not* criticise the officials after the game. He said: "I understand the players' frustrations, I really do, but I won't criticise the refereeing." https://www.reuters.com/sports/france-coach-galthie-has-no-regrets-dupont-slams-referee-2023-10-15/
“I took a lot out of it in terms of how I normally review myself, my game. Obviously there was a lot of continued criticism, someone who’s respected so much like Anton Dupont is, the whole country sort of follows his lead.
“I just had to understand what the environment was, what the situation was. It was a little bit uncomfortable the next two weeks in France, in Paris being in public and that but it was an experience that has made me stronger as a referee and has allowed me to go to another level in terms of what I want to add to the game.”
'We're never going to be congratulated': O'Keeffe on referee criticism
"If that’s our expectation as a referee I think we’re in the wrong business.”
www.nzherald.co.nz
but Galthie is ok to talk to the press about it 6 months later. BO'K seems to say it differently.
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2024/03/20...de-finale-face-a-lafrique-du-sud-11838415.php
so yes, I call double standards for both player and coach complaining about referee decisions at press conference and to media.