Grabbing the back of the collar

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This has bugged me for ages. What's the situation when;
a defender chases down the ball carrier from behind, while running stretches and reaches out and grabs the back of the players collar and yanks him back?
 
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In Rugby League Play on, Shirt tackles are ok and not classed as part of neck
 
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The Union rule is one I prefer, Saying that most league teams are getting rid of proper collars. Players should not resort to shirt grabbing
 
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The NFL calls this a horse collar tackle. It gets players here very worked up when they see it.
 
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fatscally said:
This has bugged me for ages. What's the situation when;
a defender chases down the ball carrier from behind, while running stretches and reaches out and grabs the back of the players collar and yanks him back?
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10.4 [e] it's almost always dangerous - PK minimum
 
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There's a difference between simply grabbing the collar and a horsecollar tackle - for a horsecollar you also need to pull downwards immediately after grabbing. It often generates a very nasty-looking backwards fall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnlfuCEuIIA

And yes, it's a 15-yard personal foul.
 
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Looking at that video I'd say what I'm thinking of is more of a Horse Collar Tackle. I always seen it as dangerous as it could damage the front of the neck but I wasn't sure on the ruling.
 
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During this season I came across a 1 armed winger - in attack and front on defence it was difficult to tell the difference (he wrapped his good arm). He was also one of the quickest backs so did a lot of covering. At one stage he tracked down a break away and grabbed the collar. I penalised him and he said "but what can i do differently?" I had no answer.
 
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Paully said:
During this season I came across a 1 armed winger - in attack and front on defence it was difficult to tell the difference (he wrapped his good arm). He was also one of the quickest backs so did a lot of covering. At one stage he tracked down a break away and grabbed the collar. I penalised him and he said "but what can i do differently?" I had no answer.
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Dive and grab a leg? Or even an arm. It seems a shame, but the tackle is still dangerous.
 
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