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RWC 2011 Selection
Referees
Barnes, Wayne (RFU)
Poite, Romain (FFR)
Owens, Nigel (WRU)
Rolland, Alain (IRFU)
Walsh, Steve (ARU)
Lawrence, Bryce (NZRU)
Clancy, George (IRFU)
Kaplan, Jonathan (SARU)
Joubert, Craig (SARU)
Pearson, Dave (RFU)

Assistant Referees
Garces, Jerome* (FFR)
Pollock, Chris* (NZRU)
McDowell, Simon (IRFU)
Munro, Vinny (NZRU)
Terheege, Stuart (RFU)
Hayes, Tim (WRU)
Damasco, Carlo (FIR)
* Denotes Reserve Referees

TMOs
Goddard, Matt (ARU)
Hughes, Graham (RFU)
Veldsman, Shaun (SARU)
De Santis, Giulio (FIR)
 
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dave_clark said:
only 8 ARs?
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Last time the ARs only stayed for the pool stages, and the referees then did it. Presumably referees will be appointed as AR 1s during the pool stages.
 
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Yep, my goof...:sad: I placed Goddard with the ARs when he's a TMO.
 
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tevisv said:
Yep, my goof...:sad: I placed Goddard with the ARs when he's a TMO.
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And I leapt to conclusions without seeing the small print. Apologies dave_clark. :sad: :norc:
 
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No Mark Lawrence. I wonder if there was a quota from each country. Unofficially, of course
 
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chbg said:
And I leapt to conclusions without seeing the small print. Apologies dave_clark. :sad: :norc:
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i do not accept your apology, for i do not believe that you mean it.

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The SA Refs website is certain that there was a quota of referees. http://www.sareferees.co.za/news/ref_news/2717461.htm

"Clearly there is a limitation on the number of referees from each country, and two seems to be the ceiling. This would be in the interest of "neutrality" as clearly the principle of merit selection has not yet reached international level."

Andre Watson: "Were it not for numbers limiting the match officials at RWC, I'm convinced we would have had even more referees, assistant referees and TMOs at the tournament."

Shame about Mark Lawrence not refereeing at the World Cup (again), seemed to 'peak' too early as 2 years ago I don't think you couldn't have left him off of the panel.
 
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Interesting list. I'm not convinced by Pearson.

Strange no Scottish refs on the list.:Zip: :wink:
 
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Does anybody know why only ten referees have been picked? Why not twelve or more? That way the iRB could be somewhat more "meritocratic" in their selection whilst still satisfying their obvious geographic criterion.
 
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JonnoNeath said:
Does anybody know why only ten referees have been picked? Why not twelve or more? That way the iRB could be somewhat more "meritocratic" in their selection whilst still satisfying their obvious geographic criterion.
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Paddy O'Brien gave an interview to Total Rugby and basically said the ten best were picked (so that they each got 4 pool matches) and that he didn't care whether 5 of them came from the same country, his only priority was to get the best referees in the world for the best matches - http://www.irb.com/mm/Audio/Home/TotalRugbyRadio/02/04/23/15/2042315_HI-AUD.mp3
 
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I'm sorry but Kaplan's selection on the panel is a joke. A complete joke. Never has a referee in the last 2 years been so inconsistent and actually had an impact on the games result. To name a few.

Hurricanes vs Crusaders in 2010
Australia v Ireland in 2009
Wales v Ireland in 2010
Rebels v Brumbies in 2011

I congratulate Wayne Barnes, Craig Joubert and George Clancy, in my opinion they are the two best in the world.

Steve Walsh should not be going, he's been dreadful.
 
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chief said:
I'm sorry but Kaplan's selection on the panel is a joke. A complete joke. Never has a referee in the last 2 years been so inconsistent and actually had an impact on the games result. To name a few.

Hurricanes vs Crusaders in 2010
Australia v Ireland in 2009
Wales v Ireland in 2010
Rebels v Brumbies in 2011

I congratulate Wayne Barnes, Craig Joubert and George Clancy, in my opinion they are the two best in the world.

Steve Walsh should not be going, he's been dreadful.
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Nah, you're just sore because your mate Stuart Dickinson missed the cut. :biggrin:


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Oh, and I disagree with you entirely re: Steve Walsh. I am no fan of his, but I have to concede that he has been one of the better referees in Super Rugby this year. He (and Vinny Munro) are among the few who have a real "feel" for the game.

They both manage materiality very well. Walsh's performance in the Crusaders v Sharks match at Twickers was outstanding.
 
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Ian_Cook said:
Nah, you're just sore because your mate Stuart Dickinson missed the cut. :biggrin:


*** waits for allegations if a POB led conspiracy against SD ***

Oh, and I disagree with you entirely re: Steve Walsh. I am no fan of his, but I have to concede that he has been one of the better referees in Super Rugby this year. He (and Vinny Munro) are among the few who have a real "feel" for the game.

They both manage materiality very well. Walsh's performance in the Crusaders v Sharks match at Twickers was outstanding.
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I think you'll find that I never mentioned Stu Dickinson in the post. I commented on Kaplan's performances and how I believe he shouldn't be there, I think a lot of the people on the forum will agree with me here. I liked Kaplan, but his last few years have been nothing short of poor. Mark Lawrence over Kaplan any day for me.

From what I understand Dickinson is attending, but he's taking people on a tour (obviously because he missed out) I won't shy away from that, from what I understand this is Dickinson's last year of Super Rugby, as I hear he has a nice looking 6 figure salary in the Private Sector lined up.

And Ian, I think Mark Lawrence and Vinny Munro should both be attending the RWC as referees. I think it's outrageous they aren't.

As for my maths skills ATTR, I said Joubert and Barnes first, and then I thought I would add Clancy because I'm starting to like him too.
 
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