Had this happen in a U18 game today.
Coming out of a ruck Red 5 picks and goes. Red 6 is bound onto his teammate in the hammer position. As Red 5 makes contact with Blue 7, the two Red players drive on. Blue 7 tackles Red 5 and brings him to ground. This all happens in essentially one motion. More Blue players arrive at the tackle and bind on Red 6 (the hammer). It becomes unplayable pretty quickly and I could not see the ball, so I wasn't sure if it was on the ground or not.
I blow it up award a scrum to Red. After the game I had a discussion with the Blue coach and he felt that it was a collapsed maul as the moment the two Red players make contact with the Blue tackler, a maul is formed.
Would you call it a collapsed maul and turnover ball if you can see the ball hasn't made it to ground?
The nature of it happening so fast and one motion makes it difficult to call.
Thoughts?
Coming out of a ruck Red 5 picks and goes. Red 6 is bound onto his teammate in the hammer position. As Red 5 makes contact with Blue 7, the two Red players drive on. Blue 7 tackles Red 5 and brings him to ground. This all happens in essentially one motion. More Blue players arrive at the tackle and bind on Red 6 (the hammer). It becomes unplayable pretty quickly and I could not see the ball, so I wasn't sure if it was on the ground or not.
I blow it up award a scrum to Red. After the game I had a discussion with the Blue coach and he felt that it was a collapsed maul as the moment the two Red players make contact with the Blue tackler, a maul is formed.
Would you call it a collapsed maul and turnover ball if you can see the ball hasn't made it to ground?
The nature of it happening so fast and one motion makes it difficult to call.
Thoughts?