In Ireland a shrug usually means doubt, as in "Search me?"I have no idea what this means :shrug:
In Ireland a shrug usually means doubt, as in "Search me?"
In the context of this discussion, the Gallic shrug still communicates the "Search me?" But tinged with a smidgin of indifférence from the match referee, perhaps.
Care should be taken when using this smilie with our North Americian friends, as a New Yorker once told me, for him it only meant distain.
:shrug: (I have not yet figured out how they read distain into it, but there you go.)
Only if the players doing the obstructing are in front of the BC.
really?
[LAWS]10.1.c: [FONT=fs_blakeregular](c)
[/FONT][FONT=fs_blakeregular]Blocking the tackler. [/FONT][FONT=fs_blakeregular]A player must not intentionally move or stand in a position that prevents an opponent from tackling a ball carrier.[/FONT][/LAWS]
where're the words "in front of"?
to me its 20.4.d and, yes... reds could've try to tackle from camera view to get penalty for obstruction
But the question was about a Maul, not open play.really? .... where're the words "in front of"? to me its 20.4.d and, yes... reds could've try to tackle from camera view to get penalty for obstruction
Taff, correct that the LO not ended and that the ball is the offside line but . . . .
see these two laws:
19.10(k) Defending at a lineout. A player who jumps and gains possession of the ball in the lineout may be tackled immediately upon returning to the ground.
A player who gains possession of the ball in a lineout without jumping may be tackled
immediately.
In both cases , these actions must be commenced before a maul has formed.
Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line
19.14(c) After the ball has touched a player or the ground. A player not carrying the ball is offside if , after the ball has touched a player or the ground , that player steps in front of the ball ,unless tackling (or trying to tackle) an opponent.
Any attempt to tackle must start from that player’s side of the ball.
Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line
Does the part in red prohibit running around the maul to get to the BC?
But the question was about a Maul, not open play.
Red could not have "tried to tackle from the cameras view" because the LO hadn't finished, and until it has finished, the ball is now the offside line.
It does once again raise the interesting point of (assuming we are happy about red not "leaving the lineout") why the referee needs to do anything?
If all 30 players are happy to stand around doing nothing for 40 minutes, then why should the ref intervene - other than maybe to mention it in the match report for the union to possibly take action as regards a "contrived result" ?
in other situations where a moment of stasis occurs (ball at back of ruck, ball at back of stationary scrum or maul), the referee will call 'use it' --- so that a game of rugby can break out.
this is also a 'use it' moment
in other situations where a moment of stasis occurs (ball at back of ruck, ball at back of stationary scrum or maul), the referee will call 'use it' --- so that a game of rugby can break out.
this is also a 'use it' moment
A thought just struck me... if the white phalanx WALKED forward towards the goal line and tghus towards the waiting defenders, would any of you then call "flying wedge"?
(For me its not, but I'm not the guy with the whistle).
in other situations where a moment of stasis occurs (ball at back of ruck, ball at back of stationary scrum or maul), the referee will call 'use it' --- so that a game of rugby can break out.
this is also a 'use it' moment
No, it's not dangerous. Might be pinged on obstructing a tackle if the defenders tried, though.
If the ball was at the back it would be a use it moment and you would expect them to pass it away; but the ball is at the front so how do they use it without moving it back and probably committing an offence? I think its unreasonable to ask them to use it when its at the front which is why the referee gave a scrum.
All the other instances you quote the ball is at the back.