Mike Selig
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Hi all,
Here is the report I've just got:
Name
Mike Selig
Referee’s Level 10
Society
Warwickshire
Date
01/10/11
Home Team
Green
34pts
v
Away Team
Black
23pts
Description of the Match and its challenge for the Referee Game Level__10_____
Green 2nds were without a fixture so a few of them played for the 3rds and Black fielded a strong 2nd team and had 7 rolling replacements. With the skill sets of the players, this was more like a level 9 fixture played on the hottest October day on record. The only thing that separated the scores was the Green kicker. Mikes main challenge was to manage 2 good experienced teams and assert himself on the players and the game.
Please outline up to three areas for improvement (using Key Components) and OFFER SOLUTIONS
1. GAME MANAGEMENT: Mike did not keep to his pre match front row brief. The “engagement” was being determined by the players. Almost every scrum was engaged early and he only penalised this late in the 2nd half. That said, the engagement always looked safe. If Mike free kicked the early engagement from the start and reminded the players what was agreed in the pre match brief, he would assert his authority on the players and this would help build his confidence. Mike appears to have a quiet disposition. Level 9 games and above, require the ref to be assertive, this can be achieved by quieter refs following the most experienced current international referee Jonathan Kaplin’s style (quiet but assertive).
2. POSITION: Mike missed a few off sides in the backs. Mike should stand with his shoulders facing the goal posts rather than the touch line when the ball has been won at scrum, ruck and maul. This will allow him to observe the defending team’s offside line.
3. LINE-OUT: Mike missed several early lifts and not straights. Mike always stood 5 metres in from touch and about 5 metres from the attacking side’s lineout. Mike should vary his position i.e. if he stood closer to the” gap” he would be able to detect more not straight offences. He should penalise the early lift with free kicks.
Please list up to three of the referee’s strengths in this match
1. FITNESS: Mike is fit and kept up with play. This enabled him to detect offences at the breakdown.
2. TACKLE: Mike reffed the tackle very well spotting the first offence most of the time.
3. SECONDARY SIGNALS: Mike knows all the secondary signals; I could tell what the offence was at all times. He can make better use of this knowledge and help himself appear more confident by slowing the signals down and making them more dramatic rather than over repeating them.
Comments from myself:
I am a bit disappointed with the report which I find quite short, and also am not sure it gives the impression that overall I had a good/very good game (not only my view, but both teams also and indeed the Assessor in the post-match discussion). I found the discussion quite useful if somewhat "report driven". Also to list secondary signals as a strength seems somewhat damning by faint praise or am I being overly sensitive?
On the points made:
Fitness: I felt very fit so am glad this was mentioned. This was a very fast game in hot conditions and I was behind at a tackle exactly once (not so coincidently one of two tackles where I penalised an arriving player), every other time I was 3rd there. Also at one point there was a breakaway and kick through from before half-way, I was less than 10 meters away when the winger touched down (but blowing a bit I must admit).
Scrum: I am aware that I struggle with scrums. Whereas I am at last fairly happy that I know how to referee a tackle, ruck, maul, line-out, at scrums I give decisions based on what I see but am unsure if what I see is what matters. Need to reread Brian Moore's article.
Positioning: this is becoming a problem (second report which mentions I am getting too square). Must concentrate over next few weeks (including one woman's match which should be perfect practice) on getting myself in a position to see off-side lines. I don't think I missed much but I think this was down to the teams being well disciplined than any particular competency on my part.
Line-outs: I disagree with the point made. I don't actually think I missed any not straights and I pinged a few. The early lifts was more a management issue rather than positioning (in that I kept saying "get down" and they did, but really I should have just had a word afterwards and then penalised). I feel my "standard" position allows me to see the backs, the thrower, and accross the line offences. The position he would like to see me adopt only allows the latter. He was however the first assessor who agreed with my philosophy that at this level standing at the back of the line-out is a nonsense (nearly all balls are thrown to front, and when thrown to back I am fit enough to catch up quite easily).
Overall I was happy with the match and greatly enjoyed it, I'm not sure the flavour of the report reflects that.
Thoughts? Maybe I'm just full of myself.
Here is the report I've just got:
Name
Mike Selig
Referee’s Level 10
Society
Warwickshire
Date
01/10/11
Home Team
Green
34pts
v
Away Team
Black
23pts
Description of the Match and its challenge for the Referee Game Level__10_____
Green 2nds were without a fixture so a few of them played for the 3rds and Black fielded a strong 2nd team and had 7 rolling replacements. With the skill sets of the players, this was more like a level 9 fixture played on the hottest October day on record. The only thing that separated the scores was the Green kicker. Mikes main challenge was to manage 2 good experienced teams and assert himself on the players and the game.
Please outline up to three areas for improvement (using Key Components) and OFFER SOLUTIONS
1. GAME MANAGEMENT: Mike did not keep to his pre match front row brief. The “engagement” was being determined by the players. Almost every scrum was engaged early and he only penalised this late in the 2nd half. That said, the engagement always looked safe. If Mike free kicked the early engagement from the start and reminded the players what was agreed in the pre match brief, he would assert his authority on the players and this would help build his confidence. Mike appears to have a quiet disposition. Level 9 games and above, require the ref to be assertive, this can be achieved by quieter refs following the most experienced current international referee Jonathan Kaplin’s style (quiet but assertive).
2. POSITION: Mike missed a few off sides in the backs. Mike should stand with his shoulders facing the goal posts rather than the touch line when the ball has been won at scrum, ruck and maul. This will allow him to observe the defending team’s offside line.
3. LINE-OUT: Mike missed several early lifts and not straights. Mike always stood 5 metres in from touch and about 5 metres from the attacking side’s lineout. Mike should vary his position i.e. if he stood closer to the” gap” he would be able to detect more not straight offences. He should penalise the early lift with free kicks.
Please list up to three of the referee’s strengths in this match
1. FITNESS: Mike is fit and kept up with play. This enabled him to detect offences at the breakdown.
2. TACKLE: Mike reffed the tackle very well spotting the first offence most of the time.
3. SECONDARY SIGNALS: Mike knows all the secondary signals; I could tell what the offence was at all times. He can make better use of this knowledge and help himself appear more confident by slowing the signals down and making them more dramatic rather than over repeating them.
Comments from myself:
I am a bit disappointed with the report which I find quite short, and also am not sure it gives the impression that overall I had a good/very good game (not only my view, but both teams also and indeed the Assessor in the post-match discussion). I found the discussion quite useful if somewhat "report driven". Also to list secondary signals as a strength seems somewhat damning by faint praise or am I being overly sensitive?
On the points made:
Fitness: I felt very fit so am glad this was mentioned. This was a very fast game in hot conditions and I was behind at a tackle exactly once (not so coincidently one of two tackles where I penalised an arriving player), every other time I was 3rd there. Also at one point there was a breakaway and kick through from before half-way, I was less than 10 meters away when the winger touched down (but blowing a bit I must admit).
Scrum: I am aware that I struggle with scrums. Whereas I am at last fairly happy that I know how to referee a tackle, ruck, maul, line-out, at scrums I give decisions based on what I see but am unsure if what I see is what matters. Need to reread Brian Moore's article.
Positioning: this is becoming a problem (second report which mentions I am getting too square). Must concentrate over next few weeks (including one woman's match which should be perfect practice) on getting myself in a position to see off-side lines. I don't think I missed much but I think this was down to the teams being well disciplined than any particular competency on my part.
Line-outs: I disagree with the point made. I don't actually think I missed any not straights and I pinged a few. The early lifts was more a management issue rather than positioning (in that I kept saying "get down" and they did, but really I should have just had a word afterwards and then penalised). I feel my "standard" position allows me to see the backs, the thrower, and accross the line offences. The position he would like to see me adopt only allows the latter. He was however the first assessor who agreed with my philosophy that at this level standing at the back of the line-out is a nonsense (nearly all balls are thrown to front, and when thrown to back I am fit enough to catch up quite easily).
Overall I was happy with the match and greatly enjoyed it, I'm not sure the flavour of the report reflects that.
Thoughts? Maybe I'm just full of myself.