Is this a ruck?

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Any insight on why Australia or any country would add that to their GMGs when it is not found in law?

Probably for the same reason the USA GMG contain items not found in law :unsure:
 

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Any insight on why Australia or any country would add that to their GMGs when it is not found in law?
Game Management Guidelines (GMG's) aren't the laws but a set of clarifications around issues or interpretation that may have appeared in the period since the laws were last revised. They don't override the law set but provide colour to the grey mush that the book can be. In that respect they are similar to the High Tackle framework - referee's are expected to follow this framework but the law book only says:
9.13 - A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.


Where does this talk about changing height of ball carrier/tackler, shoulder contact, etc?
 

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Is it really necessary to distinguish a ruck from a so-called post-tackle contest? I do not know about other countries but in Japan, most of the players and audiences do not know the difference and are still happily enjoying rugby. :)
 

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Is it really necessary to distinguish a ruck from a so-called post-tackle contest? I do not know about other countries but in Japan, most of the players and audiences do not know the difference and are still happily enjoying rugby. :)
I'd say yes. A tackle, like a ruck is a defined period of play with laws associated with each. Until a few years ago a tackle didn't form an offside line but a ruck did. Now the line is more blurred.
 

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Game Management Guidelines (GMG's) aren't the laws but a set of clarifications around issues or interpretation that may have appeared in the period since the laws were last revised. They don't override the law set but provide colour to the grey mush that the book can be. In that respect they are similar to the High Tackle framework - referee's are expected to follow this framework but the law book only says:
9.13 - A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.


Where does this talk about changing height of ball carrier/tackler, shoulder contact, etc?

The main difference is that your GMG's only provide clarification in your country, other countries may do it differently, which is not helpful.

World Rugby clarifications like the High Tackle framework are universal.
 

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The main difference is that your GMG's only provide clarification in your country, other countries may do it differently, which is not helpful.

World Rugby clarifications like the High Tackle framework are universal.
If you choose not to live in Oz, on your head be it :)
 

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Which only apply in Australia :unsure:
Can you explain why the ref decided he was offside?

Would this try be disallowed in England? I can't see any offense committed under law 14... a tackle was made, he arrived through the gate and picked up the ball. Is the scrum-half material in this?
 

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Can you explain why the ref decided he was offside?

Would this try be disallowed in England? I can't see any offense committed under law 14... a tackle was made, he arrived through the gate and picked up the ball. Is the scrum-half material in this?

Not without asking him.

I've watched it again and the scrum half puts his hands on the ball.
Then the second row who is in front of the SH picks up the ball.

If your in front of a team mate who last touched the ball your offside.
 

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I found Australia and USA have GMG. I cannot find the one in Japan so far. Do any other countries have GMG?
 
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