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Darkstar

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Isn't it about time LAW 4 was updated my main focus on this is LAW 4.1(f).
It states, a player may wear a mouth gaurd or dental protector. As this is LAW is not a must wear i have seen some nasty injurys due to people choosing not to protect their mouths. these have been on both the player not wearing the sheild and people making takles on him.. isnt part of our Job as Officials to make sure the game is played safely?..guard or dental protector.

 

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it's LAW? really?

Shall I say it???

Law ref please :wink:

Perhaps it should be law for certain wendyball players :pepper:
 

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I think the OP is saying that he feels "may" should be changed to "must."
 

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ddjamo,is correct in what i am getting at..
 

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sorry my bad!

Surely it's a players choice, bit like wearing a scrum cap or shoulder pads?

IF (which it won't) becomes law then we can enforce it but until then it's not our problem :shrug:

I never wore one as it made me gag, even when I forked out for a really expensive fitted one.

And as for "juniors" at our club they're recommended but not compulsory. Maybe that's where the problem is? kids tend to use the cheap "boil in the bag" type as they're cheap, boys lose them, leave them in their pocket etc, so for parents having to dip their hands in their pocket 3 or 4 times a year for a new one tends to be the reason why they go for the £3 option and yes I know the long term costs could be a lot more!!!!
 

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Most nanny-prescribed protections are made for Governance (often insurance led) liability £'s,...., IMH&SO (sceptic).

If you can present a 'financial' or liability argument Darkstar, then the IRB might consider it, but until then........

PS..welcome.
Pps, surprisingly, some pros don't wear them either.
 

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the reason for making them compulsory would not be to protect a foolish player's teeth, it would be to protect every other player from the fool's teeth.
 

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Perhaps Luis Suarez should be made to wear one?
 

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Oldman - like it :biggrin:

Over 16 they are adults and can make their own decisions, but under 16 I insist they play with a mouthguard and I send them away to get one if necessary. Our club also insist on juniors wearing mouthguards.
 

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Oldman - like it :biggrin:

Over 16 they are adults and can make their own decisions, but under 16 I insist they play with a mouthguard and I send them away to get one if necessary. Our club also insist on juniors wearing mouthguards.

I can only assume you're sending them away in your capacity as a coach, in my Union that would be overstepping your authority as a referee?

Or does SRU have a prohibition on playing without one?
 

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Boil in the bag guards are bloody awful. At my younger son's club (who wouldn't let you play without one) an ancient retired dental technician knocked out made to measure ones in a myriad of colour choices for £15 each. I don't think either son (we sneaked the older one in even though he played for a different club :biggrin:) lost theirs plus they were reminded after every match/training session. Older one knocked his two front teeeth out (not Rugby related) and had a special bulked up guard to protect his caps.

Like BFG I never wore one as they made me gag - more gay porn appearances at a younger age may have helped me cope but there you go - you can't have everything! Touchwood (oh there I go again) I have a lovely set of teeth.
 
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