Possible Ashes contest?

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To be fair, England didn't cry foul; Channel 4 left a stump mike on air which picked up the Clarke comment, leaving the match referree little alternative but to take action.

Seems you haven't heard all the sides yet....as per
The reason I have no qualms with what Clarke said is because it was (apparently) in response to Anderson threatening to punch Bailey (stump mics weren't turned up for that one, eh). As captain, he was not going to take shit like that directed at h...

So you poke the dog a few times and it bites you...and it's the dogs fault?
 
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So you poke the dog a few times and it bites you...and it's the dogs fault?

Whilst I quite like Anderson being compared to a dog, he gave as good as he got.
 

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Seems you haven't heard all the sides yet....as per

Originally Posted by leaguerefaus
The reason I have no qualms with what Clarke said is because it was (apparently) in response to Anderson threatening to punch Bailey (stump mics weren't turned up for that one, eh). As captain, he was not going to take shit like that directed at h...

So you poke the dog a few times and it bites you...and it's the dogs fault?

My point was that it wasn't the poms whingeing that led to Clarke being disciplined - it was Channel 9's cock-up in broadcasting the comment for the world to hear.

On the separate issue of the merits of the sledging: we haven't heard what led to Anderson's threat...and we probably won't, because this England will quit while they're ahead in Clarke's game of "But, but, but, he started it, mummy...".
 

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Added to which, it wasn't Clarke's "threat" that he was fined for - it was the obscenity. If he'd left that out, all would have been OK...
 

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On the separate issue of the merits of the sledging: we haven't heard what led to Anderson's threat...and we probably won't, because this England will quit while they're ahead in Clarke's game of "But, but, but, he started it, mummy...".

As far as I'm aware, Clarke nor anyone from the Australian team has used the 'he started it' defence. The only person who has came out and said that Anderson initiated it was Shane Warne.
 

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As far as I'm aware, Clarke nor anyone from the Australian team has used the 'he started it' defence. The only person who has came out and said that Anderson initiated it was Shane Warne.

My apologies: you're right. Substitute "Warne's" for "Clarke's".

But: since it is not unlikely that Anderson was reacting to a comment directed at him, it still an open question whether Clarke's comment (absent the obscenity) is to be commended as leaping to the defence of a team-mate, or condemned as piling on.
 

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My apologies: you're right. Substitute "Warne's" for "Clarke's".

But: since it is not unlikely that Anderson was reacting to a comment directed at him, it still an open question whether Clarke's comment (absent the obscenity) is to be commended as leaping to the defence of a team-mate, or condemned as piling on.

Agreed, especially since it was going on nearly the whole test. Either way, hopefully all parties involved move on.
 

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I am over watching cricketers who act and expect to be treated like petulant rock stars.
IMO, Michael Clarke is not carrying out his responsibilities in the position of Australian Cricket Captain (they used to say it was the 2nd highest position in Aus after the PM) the way most cricket lovers would expect.
I just wish they'd all just shut the hell up and let their cricket do the talking.

I used to play with a fantastic sledger - who never spoke to a batsman or used any abuse, but could get into their heads.

He would field at slip and say things to the keeper just loud enough for the batsman to hear like "this bloke looks ok, but I'm not sure about his grip -any drive is likely to be uppish" or "don't you think his stance is a bit open given the amount of swing today"

Sure enough the batsmen, esp young ones, would look down at their grip or stance, start fidgeting and do something silly
 

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Whilst I quite like Anderson being compared to a dog, he gave as good as he got.

Actually I was calling Aussies the dog, and Anderson the annoying kid who pokes the dog with a stick, and then cries to mommy that the dog bit him and wails that it's unfair..

No doubt Anderson did give as good as he got..but got bitten in the end.

(I only caught a snippet but wasn't it recently reported that poms wanted an MOU regarding sledging....and Boof/ Oz coach politely declined their invitation. Not sure if that's correct as I had switched off reading the press about this.)
 
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I find this sledging demeans both the game and the players. It's not cricket! :biggrin:

"A plague on both your houses."
 

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Just some time wasters for you that hit my email box today....(aust public just can't let it go either)

Classic cricket sledging

1. Rod Marsh and Ian Botham: When Botham took guard in an Ashes match,
Marsh welcomed him to the wicket with the immortal words: “So how’s your
wife and my kids?”

2. Daryll Cullinan and Shane Warne:As Cullinan was on his way to the
wicket, Warne told him he had Been waiting 2 years for another chance to
humiliate him. “Looks like you spent it eating,” Cullinan retorted.

3. Glenn McGrath (bowling to portly Zimbabwean chicken farmer Eddo
Brands): “Hey Eddo, why are you so F(_)ckng Fat?” Eddo Brands: “Because
everytime I F(_)ck your wife, she throws me a biscuit”

4. Robin Smith and Merv Hughes:During 1989 Lords Test Hughes said to
Smith after he played and missed:”You can’t f(_)cking bat”. Smith to
Hughes after he smacked him to the boundary: “Hey Merv, we make a fine
pair. I can’t f (_)cking bat and you can’t f(_)cking bowl.”

5. Merv Hughes and Javed Miandad:During 1991 Adelaide Test, Javed called
Merv a fat bus conductor. A few balls later Merv dismissed Javed:
“Tickets please”, Merv called out as he ran past the departing batsman.

6. Merv Hughes and Viv Richards:During a test match in the West Indies,
Hughes didn’t say a word to Viv, but continued to stare at him after
deliveries. “This is my island, my culture. Don’t you be staring at me.
In my culture we just bowl.” Merv didn’t reply, but after he dismissed
him he announced to the batsman: “In my culture we just say f(_)ck off.”

7. And of course you can’t forget Ian Healy’s legendary comment which
was picked up by the Channel 9 microphones when Arjuna Ranatunga called
for a runner on a particularly hot night during a one dayer in
Sydney… “You don’t get a runner for being an overweight, unfit, fat
cuunnt!!!”

8. James Ormond had just come out to bat on an ashes tour and was
greeted by Mark Waugh……. MW : “F(_)k me, look who it is. Mate, what are
you doing out here, there’s no way you’re good enough to play for
England” JO : “Maybe not, but at least i’m the best player in my family”

9. McGrath to Ramnaresh Sarwan: “So what does Brian Lara’s dick taste like?”
Sarwan: “I don’t know. Ask your wife.” McGrath (losing it): “If you ever
F(_)cking mention my wife again, I’ll F(_)cking rip your Fxxking
throat out.”

10. Mark Waugh standing at second slip, the new player (Adam Parore)
comes to the crease playing and missing the first ball. Mark - “Ohh, I
remember you from a couple years ago in Australia. You were shit then,
you’re f (_)cking useless now”. Parore- (Turning around) “Yeah, that’s
me and when I was there you were going out with that old, ugly sl(_)t
and now I hear you’ve married her. You dumb cuuntt”.

11. Yet another Australian witticism with this time porky Sri Lankan
batsman Arjuna Ranatunga the victim. Shane Warne, trying to tempt the
batsman out of his crease mused what it took to get the plump character
to get out of his crease and drive. Wicketkeeper Ian Healy piped up,
“Put a Mars Bar on a good length. That should do it.”

12. Ravi shastri v/s the aussie 12th man, Shastri hits it to this guy
and looks for a single…this guy gets the ball in and says “if you leave
the crease i’ll break your f(_)cking head” Shastri: “if you could bat as
well as you can talk you wouldn’t be the f(_)cking 12th man”

13. Malcolm Marshall was bowling to David Boon who had played and missed
a couple of times. Marshall : “Now David, Are you going to get out now
or am I going to have to bowl around the wicket and kill you?”

14. Fred Trueman bowling. The batsman edges and the ball goes to first
slip,and right between Raman Subba Row’s legs. Fred doesn’t say a word.
At the end of the over, Row ambles past Trueman and apologises
sheepishly. “I should’ve kept my legs together, Fred”. “So should your
mother” he replied
 

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Just some time wasters for you that hit my email box today....(aust public just can't let it go either)

Classic cricket sledging

1. Rod Marsh and Ian Botham: When Botham took guard in an Ashes match,
Marsh welcomed him to the wicket with the immortal words: “So how’s your
wife and my kids?”

you've missed out Botham's response of "Wife's fine, kids are retarded".

or has that subsequently been added for comedy value? it's hard to tell with a story over 30 years old.
 

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you've missed out Botham's response of "Wife's fine, kids are retarded".

or has that subsequently been added for comedy value? it's hard to tell with a story over 30 years old.

Botham did indeed reply as you said.
 

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Could this be an Ashes series with some competition put up by the (Aussies) Poms??

(Pieterson is still being a w@nker...so some things never change from Ashes to Ashes! He's officially on the press's hate list)
Original comment revised!

Johnson has smashed the poms again. Amazing display of fast bowling.
 

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The title of this thread is a joke. There is no contest.
 

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Original comment revised!

Johnson has smashed the poms again. Amazing display of fast bowling.

17.2 overs, 8 maidens, 40 runs, 7 wickets on a batsman's wicket!!!
How will he go when he gets to Perth on a fast bowler's dream track?
 

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It's nuts. Has there been 2 more dominant performances by a quick in recent history?
 

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Can we stop it with Australia are playing well, they are not.

Just England are playing spectacularly horrendously bad. I hope they get stuffed in every match, they dont deserve to win. When will they wake up and stop pretending we can be judged on how good we used to be. (like the Welsh in rugby)
 
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