[Law] Scrum question

[Decorily]

The ball has been hooked, but remains near the edge of the tunnel with neither team going forward. A flanker uses a foot to move the ball back through the scrum towards their number 8.
What should the referee do?

 

[Camquin]

Faint at the very idea that the ball was put in straight and needed to be hooked.

All the laws say is the hooker from the team that throws the ball in must strike for the ball. (19.22)
Any play may play the ball with their feet. (19.24)

So, provided the scrum is staying up, play on.

 

[Decorily]

When I was asked this question my sentiment was similar to yours.... be glad that the ball is on it's way to the 8 and will hopefully be away soon!!!

 

[Decorily]

See here

 

[Phil E]

[LAWS]Law 19.38.e
None front row players playing the ball in the tunnel.
Sanction Free Kick[/LAWS]

Any player may play the ball...but not while its in the tunnel, that is front row territory.

 

[thepercy]

[LAWS]Law 19.38.e
None front row players playing the ball in the tunnel.
Sanction Free Kick[/LAWS]

Any player may play the ball...but not while its in the tunnel, that is front row territory.

Has anyone ever called this FK in the real world?

 

[Marc Wakeham]

I have not, because I've never seen it happen.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

All the laws say is the hooker from the team that throws the ball in must strike for the ball. (19.22)
Any play may play the ball with their feet. (19.24)

So, provided the scrum is staying up, play on.

Only the FR whilst the ball is in the tunnel 19.20

 

[crossref]

In a law exam it's the FK to the oppo

in a real game on Saturday. .ffs play on


(If you think there is a chance it could happen again, have a word with the flanker and the prop and say technically, you can't do that ..next time you do it ..

 

[Camquin]

FFS why is that not in the during a scrum section. The rewrite was meant to make this easier to understand.

 

[Phil E]

Has anyone ever called this FK in the real world?

No because its usually a PK for the Flanker sticking his hand in there, not his foot :biggrin:

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Has anyone ever called this FK in the real world?

THink of the formation of a scrum / foot positioning etc. It would be pretty stupid fo the average flanker to try to kick a ball in the front row. If I saw it I'd blow immediately. Pretty dangerous to attempt. FK and a warning that a PK will come if he tries it again.

 

[thepercy]

THink of the formation of a scrum / foot positioning etc. It would be pretty stupid for the average flanker to try to kick a ball in the front row. If I saw it I'd blow immediately. Pretty dangerous to attempt. FK and a warning that a PK will come if he tries it again.

The lawmakers don't think its as dangerous as you do. They only consider it a technical offense and not dangerous foul play

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Indeed. I'd consider it more dangerous to your own pack Perhaps that is why? NOt something I'd like to see. a not one I'd be looking to apply "Material effect" to.

Yes I'd prefer a PK as the first sanction. Of cours foul play is a bit of an odd term in rugby law terms.

 

[Ciaran Trainor]

Has anyone ever called this FK in the real world?

Yes I've seen it a few times an penalised.

 

[Stu10]

A bit late to the party, but law 19.38.e:


Non-front-row players playing the ball in the tunnel.
Sanction: Free-kick.