TYGFTFY :wink:
if you want to show juniors how to and how NOT to tackle watch the difference between Burns (1st test) and Farrell (2 nd test) Burns put Nonu down every time he ran at him because he tackled him low, whereas Farrell went high and got bumped off time after time.
Never knew my forearm was in fact my elbow!!
I can't believe this discussion has gone on.
He didn't lead or strike with the elbow, play on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRb0XFrCQZE&feature=player_embedded
quiet day in the office, the second one of these two, RC?
What I fail to understand is your final line. Soft-cocks?
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If he hadn't led or struck with the elbow, it is indeed play on. But he did swing the elbow at the tackler, and that swung elbow laid the tackler out (see my #50): RC.
If you were convinced that that was what had happened, would you not agree with the RC?
The ball carrier did not lead or strike with is elbow, the tackler did lead with his head.
The tackler with such poor technique, who puts himself in such a position, only has himself to blame for what happens next. Even if the Ball Carrier had his arm tucked tightly against his side, the tackler still gets knocked out
This is another example of you and I looking at the same video and seeing things completely opposite, except this time, you can't accuse me of bias.
Rob have you ever played rugby?
What happens to your ball carrying arm when running at pace can not adequately be described in context by a series of still shots which grossly exaggerate actions compared to time frames.
By the have you ever played comment, I meant that the automatic movements can't always be dissected so closely - I did many things which we re just a response to positions I found myself in, I wondered if you had that experience too.
If you look at the third still it looks like his ball carrying arm at time of contact to me? Or at least transferred to two hands?
So basically what's happened is the attacking player has got the ball in a bad position defender side, he has planted his right foot and turned a bit more side on to protect the ball, hence leading with right arm and leg, and the defender has somehow got himself in an even worse position and copped a braced arm to the head (braced as he has the ball in it). Nothing in it, play on.
In all those I can see his number and his elbow -and to me that indices he is not leading with said elbow.
The Scottish tackler's technique is awful -body low and cheek to cheek.
Richie Gray's tackle is a stone cold penalty for being high and I see not reason to overturn that.
There follows a sequence of stills from the video in the OP:
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That's what I see; two movements with the elbow, one swinging into contact, the next following contact. The second is legitimate; the first is IMHO a deliberate swing of the arm. It's not part of his normal running action, because he's stepping with his right foot into the tackle.
True; but look at the sequence above. Two movements by the elbow.