Law definition of a knock-on requires the player to catch it, so I would say still a knock-on.I noticed somewhere (can't recall which game) a player losing a ball forward and slapping it backwards without regaining possession and before it hit the ground or another player.
Should this be a knock on also?
Technically yes, but it would be a hard sell to get players to believe you. By slapping backwards with a hand they could claim "I still had possession"I noticed somewhere (can't recall which game) a player losing a ball forward and slapping it backwards without regaining possession and before it hit the ground or another player.
Should this be a knock on also?
Knock-on for me. If for no other reason it is then in keeping with how we adjudge the knock-on to kick situation mentioned abive.I noticed somewhere (can't recall which game) a player losing a ball forward and slapping it backwards without regaining possession and before it hit the ground or another player.
Should this be a knock on also?
Yes and yesso if the ball ends up bouncing/landing 5m behind the player after the slap, you'd still sell a knock on?
Note Im not saying that technically you would be worng - but I'll wager you'll have 30 players thinking "WTAF?" !!
Agreed. The law book definition is quite clear from my perspective. If he knocks the ball forward, he must catch it before it hits the ground or another player to avoid a knock-on. Knocking it backwards, even behind the original spot of knock forward, isn’t enough.Yes and yes
I have never, ever, never (did I say ever?) seen an elite referee give this as a knock on. Until I do, its play on for meYes and yes
I have never, ever, never (did I say ever?) seen an elite referee give this as a knock on. Until I do, its play on for me
I have never, ever, never (did I say ever?) seen an elite referee give this as a knock on. Until I do, its play on for me
I think I'd have less trouble selling it as I would the converse.
This is related to the LRZ knock-on/Liam Williams try scenario. I believe "everyone" (maybe not Welsh fans) agreed that it was actually a knock-on.I have never, ever, never (did I say ever?) seen an elite referee give this as a knock on. Until I do, its play on for me
Yes it was. Nigel O (whinI believe is also Welsh) thought it was in his WR youtube film.This is related to the LRZ knock-on/Liam Williams try scenario. I believe "everyone" (maybe not Welsh fans) agreed that it was actually a knock-on.
There is another example somewhere in this forum that I remember seeing... I'll go digging.
This is related to the LRZ knock-on/Liam Williams try scenario. I believe "everyone" (maybe not Welsh fans) agreed that it was actually a knock-on.
There is another example somewhere in this forum that I remember seeing... I'll go digging.