What a crap comparison, He's better than you. A better comparison would be the 100m , One competitor gets a 'notice' that the gun is about to go off, resulting in him getting his feet out of the blocks before his opponent ! [hereafter to be known as "going on the 'B' of the Bonnet" The feed advantage is sufficient in having your hooker closer to the ball. That's enough. Additional notifications created additional advantages ....... I'm arguing that it is against the 'spirt' of the TLoTG.
& having the opposition get the advantage of feed is sufficient punishment. Where does Law say one team gets a signal to give advance notice of feed to one side?
If it had been left to me to decide what I wanted to do, this is exactly what I would have gone with.
but are we supposed to be working out what non-verbal signal works for us, or are we supposed to be following the guidance we were given (a tap)
but Browner a scrum is designed so that one team has an inbuilt advantage over the other. that's how it is supposed to be.
'fair' doesn't mean designed to give a 50/50 chance. Otherwise the ref would have to put it in (after spinning a coin perhaps to decide which side)
It does not comment on the possibility, so no conclusions can be drawn.& having the opposition get the advantage of feed is sufficient punishment. Where does Law say one team gets a signal to give advance notice of feed to one side?
conceptually, what's against you standing further back & the scrum half turning his head to see the same signal that you give when on the non feed side of the scrum......... in other words why is SH looking at the scrum so important, referee decides it's S&S enough not him & the 0.25s that it takes for him to turn back won't ruin things? ....just a thought.
It does not comment on the possibility, so no conclusions can be drawn.
When I started playing it was standard practice for the scrum half to say "Ball coming in ... NOW". His hooker would know the timing. Fairly soon it became the practice for the hooker to tap when he was ready. That has been going on for many years. It is therefore sanctioned (in the other sense) by custom. You are swimming against the tide.
Good idea but can't do it as it's against the express guidance I have on the topic.
Are you trying to argue that tapping is illegal? Or just trying to muddy the waters?Yep, tapping the hand was definitely invented by someone, as was ...."hit & walk at scrum", "hinging", "screen running", "bridging", "saddle rolling" "SH picking the ball out of scrum-rather than no8 stepping over it" ................... & just because they are used it doesn't make their use Lawful.
Browner, you're talking rubbish.
Hardly. You are simply making a claim.I'm showing that your argument that things have become 'custom' is irrelevant.
Both signals are unknown to the opposing forwards, so what do you see as different? In both cases the opposing scrum half can see what is happening and can shout if he wishes. I see no basis for you belief that it is unfair. Do you penalise players for doing it?The Hooker flapping his hand to signal i'm set & ready - is fine. The SH9 tapping the hooker to signal 'i'm about to put it in' should be stopped, as such 'preferential notice' is contrary to fair play principals for restarting play.
No idea. Don't care......................... we all acknowledge your history referencing ability OB, so - when did this practice start, who started it?
Are you seriously saying that nobody complained about crooked feeds?"Sanctioned by custom" an interesting phrase OB, as were unstraight feeds for 10 years ? Nah.