Just wanted to check. Blue have an attacking lineout on reds 5metre. Clean catch and drive with the ball at the back of the maul. As the ball goes over the line blue just has to drop to score however if the player doesn't react quick enough would I be right in thinking that red players could come around and stop him from grounding the ball?
Maul and offside
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The L8 team I help with kicking coaching specifically coach this tactic at 5m defensive line outs.
As the forwards are trying to hold the driving maul, "guards" (usually full back and centre who are big lads) are posted on goal line to each side of maul to tackle anyone spinning off and once at the goal-line to go in the side to tackle and hold up the ball carrier.
As the forwards are trying to hold the driving maul, "guards" (usually full back and centre who are big lads) are posted on goal line to each side of maul to tackle anyone spinning off and once at the goal-line to go in the side to tackle and hold up the ball carrier.
Yes. Otherwise offside.
But once the ball is on or over the line, even if in the air, the maul is over, and we have play similar to a maul occuring in goal.
Which would lead to a very short opportunity to ground it before ruling held up.
But once the ball is on or over the line, even if in the air, the maul is over, and we have play similar to a maul occuring in goal.
Which would lead to a very short opportunity to ground it before ruling held up.
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Yes the ball must be over or have crossed the goal line, so the referee's position and view of the ball is paramount.
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:nono: = Idiot Boy considers disagreeing with combined authority of Davet and ST:noyc: ] Or to put the other view: a maul cannot exist in-goal (Law 22.6), which is why the offside line at a maul that has crossed the goal line remains the goal line. If a player joins this maul-like thing behind the goal line but ahead of the hindmost foot, he's not to be penalised for coming in the side as he's not joined a maul at all - the maul exists only in the field of play. [/ :nono: = Idiot Boy etc]Ahhh - Dixie, what a joy.
You rae of course absolutely right - the defenders can join the in-goal non-maul portion of the "thing" anywhere from the defending backfoot up to goal-line.
One must be so careful to avoid answering only the obvious part of a question, some of these answers could probably be knocked up into full dissertations once all the angles are covered.
Personally I was really considering the main thrust of the initial post, covering going for the ball, and if that's not in-goal then it's safe from unwanted attentions. Not so attackers forward of the ball and by now in-goal.
Well, if very pedantically, spotted.
You rae of course absolutely right - the defenders can join the in-goal non-maul portion of the "thing" anywhere from the defending backfoot up to goal-line.
One must be so careful to avoid answering only the obvious part of a question, some of these answers could probably be knocked up into full dissertations once all the angles are covered.
Personally I was really considering the main thrust of the initial post, covering going for the ball, and if that's not in-goal then it's safe from unwanted attentions. Not so attackers forward of the ball and by now in-goal.
Well, if very pedantically, spotted.