Reckless Endangerment

[Ciaran Trainor]

@shebeen Yeah, that's the same. In both cases all the players involved had eyes on ball and were in a good position to catch it (despite what Barnes said at the weekend). I don't know the solution, jumping to take a ball is generally accepted, and we agree that safety needs to be paramount, but in these 2 examples IMHO all players are equally entitled to be where they are and to compete for the ball.

Couldn't agree more. Both players legally going for the ball. Easy enough to assess by the TMO. Rugby incident, play on. What if Dupont had got himself into position and wasn't moving and was in position to catch the ball? Would that have been a different outcome? If not, it should be.

 

[BikingBud]

I guess you would then genuinely feel that Connor Murray committed the dangerous play here then too?

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Yes, dangerous play by Red 9.

But the point I have made numerous times is, it is no good arguing that the player that is now a paraplegic, or worse, was right.

The tactic needs to be stopped.

 

[BikingBud]

RC for Kolbe for reckless endangerment, he jumped into the space where he should expect another player to be.

Dupont is moving into the correct place and is watching the ball, and has been taken out by a player with no concern about his own or other player's welfare.

Crazy red card.

Whereas deliberating smashing into a player into a ruck, a la PSD, and fracturing another player's eye socket deserves a significant ban.

Dupont 4weeks
PSDT 3 weeks

 

[didds]

Dupont 4weeks
PSDT 3 weeks

hmmm.

<grits teeth>
No comment. 'Cos I've said it all before.

 

[crossref]

Yes, dangerous play by Red 9.

But the point I have made numerous times is, it is no good arguing that the player that is now a paraplegic, or worse, was right.

The tactic needs to be stopped.

but are the current Laws the best, most effective way to stop it? it hasn't stopped it so far. Perhaps we need a different approach

 

[didds]

thats it really the current laws/interpretations aren't working.

Other than we dont know what they would be like if they weren't in place.


but there is still a way to go

notwithstanding there is clearly an accepted level of "risk" to those being carded.

 

[BikingBud]

thats it really the current laws/interpretations aren't working.

Other than we dont know what they would be like if they weren't in place.


but there is still a way to go

notwithstanding there is clearly an accepted level of "risk" to those being carded.

Laws are fine but the interpretations are skewed.

The way the tactic is currently perceived they, WR, have provided a clear blame culture that blames the player that decides not to endanger themselves and absolves the jumper of any and all responsibility for their actions and the outcome.

It is not a defendable position.

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

There was an incident in the RLWC Final on Saturday whereby Addo-Carr got underneath To'o as he jumped for a high ball. To'o came down on his side. Play on - sort of. Not saying it's better - just different. JAC would have been YC'd in RU.

 

[BikingBud]

There was an incident in the RLWC Final on Saturday whereby Addo-Carr got underneath To'o as he jumped for a high ball. To'o came down on his side. Play on - sort of. Not saying it's better - just different. JAC would have been YC'd in RU.

"He can't just disappear!"

 

[didds]

Interesting. Two completely opposite views, in similar enough sports.

 

[shebeen]

Dupont 4weeks
PSDT 3 weeks

Dupont now reduced to 2weeks