RWC RC counter

[crossref]

There are 48 games in the RWC

Predictions for how many RC there will be ??

 

[didds]

942
the rwc will not actually be completed until 2026 because of the multiple DPs and their multiple appeals
and in the style of post drug revelation Tour De Frances, in 2038 Chile will be announced RWC 2023 winners on the count back.

 

[Balones]

942
the rwc will not actually be completed until 2026 because of the multiple DPs and their multiple appeals
and in the style of post drug revelation Tour De Frances, in 2038 Chile will be announced RWC 2023 winners on the count back.

Something tells me you weren’t taking the question seriously.

 

[crossref]

I will start us off with ... Drum roll ..

12

Background data.
There have only been 25 ever, across all world cups,
But in 2019 there were 8

Got think this tournament will set a new record

List of Rugby World Cup red cards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dickie E]

I will start us off with ... Drum roll ..

12

Background data.
There have only been 25 ever, across all world cups,
But in 2019 there were 8

Got think this tournament will set a new record

List of Rugby World Cup red cards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1 every 4 games sounds about right. I'll be a bit more pessimistic and go with 16. I don't think any ref or FPRO wants to be seen as a softie.

 

[crossref]

1 every 4 games sounds about right. I'll be a bit more pessimistic and go with 16. I don't think any ref or FPRO wants to be seen as a softie.

And I suspect that
a LOT of incidents will be referred to the FPRO
and it might actually be easier to give RC from watching videos in a bunker

 

[didds]

Something tells me you weren’t taking the question seriously.

err.....

 

[Harry]

I want to support England
I want to feel optimistic about RWC
I want England to get more tries than cards

But on recent form...............................

 

[Volun-selected]

Total guess - 11

1 card per 4 matches for first 2 matches in each pool as refs lay out their standards/expectations (8 matches, 2 RC), 1 in 5 for rest of pool matches as players adapt (32m, so 6?). 1 in 3 for KO stages (8m, so call it 3?)

So 11 - and totally making this up off the assumption that refs will start hard but players will learn/respond, and coaches will rejig my the KO stages.

 

[crossref]

so 16 games in = 3 RC so if they carry on at this rate we'll have 9 . (in 2019 there were 8)

List of Rugby World Cup red cards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[crossref]

So six now
(including the one a moment ago in Namibia game)

We have ended up in a bad place. We can't have a professional game where so many RC are issued, all to players with no intention of committing foul play.

We need a 20min replacement so that there is at least a cap on the impact to the game

 

[Phil E]

We need a 20min replacement so that there is at least a cap on the impact to the game

So you "accidentally" injure the Captain of the other team, who is possibly the best player of the tournament, and he has to go off injured for the rest of the game.
Meanwhile the offending team only lose a player for 20 minutes?

Not for me. Red is red. The impact on the game was caused by the offending player, intentionally or not.

 

[crossref]

So you "accidentally" injure the Captain of the other team, who is possibly the best player of the tournament, and he has to go off injured for the rest of the game.
Meanwhile the offending team only lose a player for 20 minutes?

Not for me. Red is red. The impact on the game was caused by the offending player, intentionally or not.

Happy to see

Intentional offences = No replacement

Accidental offence = replacement allowed after 20

It's kinda moot though as in pro rugby the former never happen

 

[crossref]

Seven RC now

Update from WR : the RC will continue until the accidents cease

 

[didds]

and who/how is "intentional" decided?

I would say all of these head contact RCs have intentional upright tackles.
I doubt any of these head contact are intentional.

 

[crossref]

You have a point and, yes, I am over egging it by calling them all accidents

But we are not in a good place and something has to change as the current laws and protocols arent working.

 

[didds]

Totally agree. WR have created a mess, and have no way of fixing it, or getting out of it.
Its there to reduce head contact presumably. It is manifestly not reducing accidental head contact.



japan v samoa tonight. Two bunkers for head contact.

One ends up yellow, one red. The reasoning on the YC was something about njo hiugh level of danger.
Frankly, that's a cop out. Head contact is either dangerous or its not. permitting head contact because "that wasn't REALLY dangerous" creates an environment whereby head contact can still be accepted. But its still head contact.

 

[SimonSmith]

You have a point and, yes, I am over egging it by calling them all accidents

But we are not in a good place and something has to change as the current laws and protocols arent working.

Yes. Coaches and players have to do better.

After the Warburton red, the spear disappeared. Players and coaches can, therefore, adjust tackle technique.

In this case, they are chooisng not to. They bear the consequences.

 

[crossref]

Yes. Coaches and players have to do better.

After the Warburton red, the spear disappeared. Players and coaches can, therefore, adjust tackle technique.

In this case, they are chooisng not to. They bear the consequences.

Why did this work for spear tackles, but hasn't for head contact?

The RC will continue until the accidents cease

 

[Dickie E]

japan v samoa tonight. Two bunkers for head contact.

One ends up yellow, one red. The reasoning on the YC was something about njo hiugh level of danger.
Frankly, that's a cop out. Head contact is either dangerous or its not. permitting head contact because "that wasn't REALLY dangerous" creates an environment whereby head contact can still be accepted. But its still head contact.

Without digging out the flowchart I think the officials got these right. The head-on-head clash was worth a YC and the shoulder to head worth a RC. IMO.