[Scrum] Scrum - Who can strike for the ball?

[thepercy]

19.20
Front-row players may gain possession by striking for the ball but only once the ball touches the ground in the tunnel.

Or

19.22 (New)
The hooker from the team which threw in the ball must strike for the ball.

 

[Flish]

Any of the front row can, the hookers *must* - at least that’s how I read it.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Spot on Flish. That said if the THP of the non putting-in side hooks the ball back I'd not ping his hooker for not doing so.

 

[Flish]

Same for a scrum that’s taking a beating all afternoon, not material for me that not going backwards should be more important than hooking

 

[didds]

Spot on Flish. That said if the THP of the non putting-in side hooks the ball back I'd not ping his hooker for not doing so.

given

19.22 (New)
The hooker from the team which threw in the ball must strike for the ball.

the non puttign in hooker doesn;t have to strike anyway ?

didds

 

[Flish]

Good point, like I said not something I hugely have to focus on at my level, but one to file away - cheers

 

[Zebra1922]

Any of the front row can, the hookers *must* - at least that’s how I read it.

Only the hooker from the putting in team MUST strike for the ball, the opposing hooker can, but does not have to, strike. As per an earlier post though I would not penalize if a prop from the putting in side struck instead, the law change was to ensure we did not have a stalemate with the ball in the tunnel and no one striking due to the loss of pushing power whilst you strike.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Yes I stamd corrected. I do thing that ,all else beign equal both sides shoud be required to hook

 

[chbg]

19.22 (New)
The hooker from the team which threw in the ball must strike for the ball.

When did this one appear? I tend to rely on the written published book.

 

[crossref]

When did this one appear? I tend to rely on the written published book.

That's a mistake , the 2018 book omitted all the 2017 Trials, so was not even current on the day it was published (even those that were in the printed 2017 book were left out )

 

[chbg]

I also carry around the 2017 Law Book. And this doesn't appear in there either, so it was not a 2017 Trial, was it. You haven't included it in your differences between 2017 and 2018. It is not something that I remember at all, nor have we been told about it? So when did it appear? Presumably before the inclusion of a new 9.19, which still has not made it to the on-line version.

 

[L'irlandais]

I have to agree with crossref on this. It is a Law amendment from May 2018, so if your written copy was published prior to that date, it is no longer up to date. The online version allows you to highlight the latest amendments.

Law 19.22
[LAWS]MAY 2018 LAW AMEND
The hooker from the team which threw in the ball must strike for the ball. Sanction: Free-kick.[/LAWS]

Perhaps WR expect us all to have the latest iPhone and check at halftime for any minute by minute changes to the LoTG.

If you want to scribble the other two amendments to Law 19 down, they are as follows:

[LAWS]19.15
MAY 2018 LAW AMEND
When both sides are square, stable and stationary, the scrum-half throws in the ball:[/LAWS]
&

[LAWS]19.15 f)
MAY 2018 LAW AMEND
Straight. The scrum-half may align their shoulder on the middle line of the scrum, thereby standing a shoulder-width closer to their side of the scrum.[/LAWS]

 

[Ciaran Trainor]

Hooker must strike for the ball. Doesn't say the hooker has to touch the ball so a quick flail of the leg is enough to satisfy the law.

 

[chbg]

Thank you L'irlandais, very helpful. Never too old to be taught new ways of using on-line technology. Never saw that button before.

 

[L'irlandais]

Me neither, to be honest. I stumbled across it just then.

 

[Taff]

Who can strike for the ball?

Once it's touched the ground any FR players can play the ball.