Sports Personality of the Year

[ex-lucy]

BCM66

The debate over whether darts is actually a sport is otiose in the face of Taylor’s brilliance, but given the danger, required fitness, lifestyle and unpredictability of horse racing the award should go to McCoy. The fact that his Grand National triumph was an event that captures the nation’s public and was on terrestrial TV may just be decisive.

Whatever your choice, focus on things that genuinely show sporting greatness and ignore the trivial.

hmm... I disagree ... Darts is not a sport .. it's a pastime ...
so few variables involved .....
I admire Phil Taylor's brilliance but ... why isnt a champion cribbager or stamp collector involved?

 

[4eyesbetter]

Can we give the overseas award to Ricky Ponting?

 

[dave_clark]

hmm... I disagree ... Darts is not a sport .. it's a pastime ...
so few variables involved .....
I admire Phil Taylor's brilliance but ... why isnt a champion cribbager or stamp collector involved?

what's the difference between a sport and a pastime?

 

[OB..]

what's the difference between a sport and a pastime?

Personal prejudice.

 

[SimplySimon]

Personally in the absence of any Rugby players, the award should go to Mark Cavendish. He has consistantly excelled in his chosen sport and irritated the French in the process - definitely a Champion in my books :biggrin:

 

[Rit Hinners]

I believe a pastime is anything you can do with a beer in one hand.:clap:

 

[SimplySimon]

Personally in the absence of any Rugby players, the award should go to Mark Cavendish. He has consistantly excelled in his chosen sport and irritated the French in the process - definitely a Champion in my books :biggrin:

By irritate may I explain further - by winning the last stage of the Tour de France along the Champs Elysees, which traditionally the French love to win!!

 

[SimonSmith]

I believe a pastime is anything you can do with a beer in one hand.:clap:

There was a well known Sunday league player in Sussex who could play with a pint in his hand and not spill a drop. Soccer.

 

[Rit Hinners]

There was a well known Sunday league player in Sussex who could play with a pint in his hand and not spill a drop. Soccer.

There you go.

Evidence that Soccer is NOT a sport, it's a pastime.

 

[Dixie]

Personally in the absence of any Rugby players, the award should go to Mark Cavendish. He has consistantly excelled in his chosen sport and irritated the French in the process - definitely a Champion in my books :biggrin:

This demonstrates the dichotomy represented by Sports Personality of the Year Award. Very often, the best sportsmen have no personality - and the Personalities are not the best sportsmen (Know What I Mean, 'Arry?). If you are looking to reward top sportspeople, I'd agree with Cav but also nominate Tom Daley.

 

[Jenko]

what's the difference between a sport and a pastime?

I believe that there is a taxation issue! Darts players fronted up at Parliament and said 'If our game is a past time it is not taxable' Darts then became a sport!!

 

[Toby Warren]

My understanding is a sport your actions influence the other player, where as a pass time you play your self.ie snooker sport golf passtime.

Although I think OB's view has more than a ring of truth about it!

 

[Dickie E]

My understanding is a sport your actions influence the other player, where as a pass time you play your self.ie snooker sport golf passtime.

Although I think OB's view has more than a ring of truth about it!

So chess & cards = sport; swimming, diving, rowing, sailing, all track & field = pastime :chin:

 

[Toby Warren]

Yep, which which is why i think ob's view has a ring of truth.

 

[Dixie]

I believe that there is a taxation issue! Darts players fronted up at Parliament and said 'If our game is a past time it is not taxable' Darts then became a sport!!

Apocryphal, I suspect. Tax law cares not whether income is derived from a pastime, a sport, a job, a career or a profession. It taxes your mother's state pension, the city wideboy's bonus (widely believed to be unearned), your building society interest and the community soccer referee's £20 match fee for doing a U.14 girls' game. it might do it differently based upon whether the income derives from an office or an employment, from land or from reffing, but it's all taxable.

Actually, I vaguely recall an early case in which the players argued that it was, in fact, a sport. If (dim) memory serves, that was in the context of it being allowed into pubs, at a time when games of chance were banned from pubs. A board was set up in the courtroom, and the landlord defeated all comers - proving that the game was one of skill rather than chance, and thus not banned from licensed premises.

 

[Phil E]

How about...............you have to change your footwear to play sport?

 

[Dixie]

How about...............you have to change your footwear to play sport?

That makes being a clown a sport - and running a marathon not a sport (since we all wear trainers anyway).

 

[OB..]

Surely a pastime is something you do simply because you enjoy it - and that can include sport.

 

[Phil E]

That makes being a clown a sport - and running a marathon not a sport (since we all wear trainers anyway).

Speak for yourself peasant........stout pair of brown brogues for me :nono:

I think being a clown is more a lifestyle choice :chin:

 

[Dickie E]

That makes being a clown a sport -

Ah, yes, Derek Randall .... all makes sense now

Seriously, I loved DR (in a man to man kind of way).