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Go to http://www.learnrugbylaws.com and take the quiz, it has over 400 questions to throw at you randomly, try 50 and see how well you do.

It's a great way for you to test your knowledge and thinking on both the actual laws of the game, and scenarios.
 

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I find it a great resource. I do 20 questions at a time. And score between 80 & 95%.
As a (very) junior ref, I find it a great help.
 
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It is an excellent resource and I should use it more but I don't think this question has any merit being there! Do you have to be a mathematician too?!

According to the plan, there should be [BLANK] dash lines on the field of play.
22
23
26
27

1.3c : Six dash lines are 5 meter from and parallel to each goal-line, 5 dash lines are 5 meter from and parallel to each touch-line, two dash lines connect the 5-meter dash lines to each goal-line, and one dash line intersects the center of the half-way line (6+6+5+5+2+2+1=27).
 
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And if anyone saw Ireland's match against Italy, there was a gale blowing down the pitch. At one stage one of the corner flags had blown over horizontally and was obviously stuck in that position. It had blown over into the in-goal area. That's why the law below is ok for a fine day, but there's no way I would penalise someon for touching a flag that is a metre inside the field of play!

22.11b : When a player carrying the ball touches the corner post, the touch-in-goal line, or the dead ball line, or touches anyone or anything beyond those lines, the ball becomes dead. If the ball was played into in-goal by the attacking team, a drop-out shall be awarded to the defending team. If the ball was played into in-goal by the defending team, a 5-meter scrum shall be awarded and the attacking team throws in the ball.
 
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One more I have issue with (and I only answered about 10 questions!!):

21.5c and 21.8e : At a free kick, once they have retired the necessary distance, players of the opposing team may charge and try to prevent the kick being taken. They may charge the free kick as soon as the kicker starts to approach the kick. At a penalty kick, if the kicker indicates to the referee the intent to kick at goal, the opposing team must stand still with their hands by their sides from the time the kicker starts to approach to kick until the ball is kicked. The penalty is a penalty kick, ten meters in front of the mark for the first kick, but not within five meters of the goal-line.

I was caught out with the free kick part of this. I am a little confused with the wording "They may charge the free kick as soon as the kicker starts to approach the kick." Does this suggest that the ball is on the ground? I have never seen a free kick taken off the ground. If it is Should it say "..to approach the mark where the kick should be taken."?
 

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Never noticed that before...


mmm
 

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needs a good read in the bible, will get there soon.

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If a team decide they will run a move off a free kick they generally place the ball on the ground, on the mark, and line up an some form of array designed to confuse (normally it mainly confuses themselves) with pivots and link men and runners coming from different directions.

This bit of law means that as soon as the one who going to actually kick the ball starts to do so (usually its not a run up just a tap and pick up) then the opposition can charge.

Note that the kicker's team should not be allowed to stand way back and start to run up at speed before the tap is made, this is a cavalry charge; and whilst generally a problem within 10m of the opposition goal-line, it is illegal anywhere on the pitch.
 

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<B>his is a cavalry charge; and whilst generally a problem within 10m of the opposition goal-line, it is illegal anywhere on the pitch.</B>

Indeed - but I'll wager most refs won;t ping it if its outside the oppo's 22....

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Ah, now that is, as you say, perhaps a different matter.

But although the Law Book provides, as an example, the description of a cavalry charge taking place within 10m of the goal-line, this is only because that is the most likely place for a side to try it - there's less point to it if the kick is further back.

But it is, nevertheless, still illegal. And I have pinged it, and discussed it with the coach afterwards, and had an acknowledment that maybe...I suppose you could call it sort of...a bit illegal, but .... even so....
 

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oh - agree with everything you say Dave; that doesn't mean that my wager would be a worthless bet though... IMO refs don;t ping "pre-tap movement" if its outside the oppo 22...

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I think it depends on just what movement, pre-tap, there actually is.

If the atackers stand well back, charge up in a body getting to within a couple of metres of the ball before the quick tap and pass to someone who is now moving really fast, then I think it would be.

If its simply players a little back from the ball starting to run a split second before the tap then I guess you are right, most would not worry about it, me included.

My concern is more safety than simple technicality.
 

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In most cases kickers just tap and go but if there is clearly some sort of move on (and I agree the attackers are usually as confused by this as the defenders) I pre empt the kick while they are setting up by addressing the potential receivers/dummy runners with "Do not charge before he takes the kick!" in preventative mode. If they do charge (and I am one of those who applies the Cavalry charge sanction anywhere on the field of play) then loud blast and penalty to the opposition.
 

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As an athletics coach about to return to reff-ing here are a few thoughts on drill to improve acceleration:

1. [Jog 20m / sprint 20m / walk 20m / jog 20m / sprint 20m] 2 min recovery - repeat 5 times. Then full recovery and repeat to taste.

You can vary this by replacing the sprint with High Knees / Fast Feet / Bum Flicks (these will focus the work on more specific muscle groups).

2. Reaction Starts: Static start (in different positions) into 20m sprint. Best if you are reacting to a noise (by someone or set you watch to beep). Different positions = American Football crouch / Press-Up position / Kneeling / Sitting / Lying on back /

3. Out and Backs: [Sprint out to 1st mark and touch the floor / back to start and touch the floor] repeat to 2nd mark(no stopping), then third, then 2nd, then 1st. Distances shoulnd't bee very long - think of a tennis court where you would start against the back fence - 1st mark would be the service line, 2nd the service fault line, 3rd the net. (Avoid always turning on the same leg to reduce stresses).

In all of these feel the arms working hard ank knees driving up and forward.

Have fun and let us know how you get on.

Alan ................
 

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Welcome to the Forums Alan,

Some good advice there, thanks, may use that whilst I am away from home for a few weeks.
 

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Thanks RB.

Got my certificate, pass mark and badge today from the RFU, so my first match should be coming up in the next few weeks.

I will be going into it realising I'll be a lot better in ten games time, but I know I've got to get these first ones under my belt. Hope not to ruin anyone's game while I get through this.

[deep breath!]
 
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Two things regarding this thread:

1. I have just purchased LRL off Boyd - he was selling for those who didn't know (just getting the formalities of cheques etc. sorted out - expect to see it expand from a simple laws quiz).

2. I've moved this thread because the web-site fits right in with decision making, and the top of the General Rugby Talk board was getting very crowded with 'Stickies'.
 

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How much did it cost?

Fancy intergrating it here?
 
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