England v France

timmad

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If Fickou was on 8m, so are the rest of the French back line. Looks about 10m to me. England look to be slightly further back than 10m!

I never had the luxury of 5m mowed grass strips, so I preferred to stand where I could see both back lines and the lineout.

I looked at the mown strips and, if they are 5m, my estimate of 8m stands. I think the fly half was closer.
 

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Wrt that du pont knock on.. refs have blown this fumble at the ruck as knock on for yonks. This was just an extreme version .

I dont agree with it per se, just presume it's a generic approach to avoid making a decision on a centimetre drop
 

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Dupont drops the ball backwards, puts his hands on it and falls off the ball again. I assumed the knock-on was for the second touch.

Regarding the French lineout move, the whole back line were aligned and I assume where the AR had marked them. Fickou moved up legally. I thought it was a fantastic set piece play.
 

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Wrt that du pont knock on.. refs have blown this fumble at the ruck as knock on for yonks. This was just an extreme version .

I dont agree with it per se, just presume it's a generic approach to avoid making a decision on a centimetre drop

yes, that
 

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France's second try (am I coming across as a biased England fan?). Interesting to see Fikou's starting position at the line-out as the ball left the thrower's hand - 10 metres?

Looks good to me.
 

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To answer my own question: I looked back through the footage and estimate that Fickou, anticipating the play, was not more than 8 metres from the line of touch as the ball was thrown.
A further question: when does the line-out end allowing players not in the line - and starting 10 metres back - to participate?
When the ball has passed the 15 metre line? In which case, Fickou was, say, 3 metres back.

Hard to referee this I know.

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