[Law] Is this forward pass

[crossref]

At the back of a ruck , 9 fishes out the ball and passes to a stationary pod

So no one is moving

The pod is 15m away from the 9, 1m back .

There is a strong headwind so to pass to the pod the ball actually leaves the 9 slightly forwards, curving in flight back to the pod

Who would peep , thrown forward ?

 

[Decorily]

Not sure what the catch is.... but if you mean the ball left the 9s hands slightly forward then that's exactly what it is....forward!

 

[Flish]

If he throws it forwards, yes.

 

[Rich_NL]

Yes, it's forwards. But given it's highly unusual and they're already playing into a fierce wind, I'd have a word with SH and captain at the next pause and tell them that their pods need to be deeper and why.

 

[Decorily]

Yes, it's forwards. But given it's highly unusual and they're already playing into a fierce wind, I'd have a word with SH and captain at the next pause and tell them that their pods need to be deeper and why.

Coaching?

 

[crossref]

So far one person NOT blowing his whistle and two who haven't said ?

( I know reading legalisticly it fits the definition of a throw forward . I asked who would actually blow their whistle and give a forward pass)

 

[Decorily]

So far one person NOT blowing his whistle and two who haven't said ?

( I know reading legalisticly it fits the definition of a throw forward . I asked who would actually blow their whistle and give a forward pass)

Which category do I fit in...not blowing or haven't said?

 

[crossref]

Which category do I fit in...not blowing or haven't said?

You restated the Law (which I knew, it's why I asked the question) but didn't actually say you'd blow your whistle

 

[Decorily]

It's a forward pass....so yes I'm blowing!

 

[Rich_NL]

Coaching?

Yep, in exceptional conditions.

I've played a couple of matches in storms like that and there's no way the pod is 15m away, mind you; if I ever get to ref at the level that's possible I may well just blow it up as I'd expect better from professionals

 

[Decorily]

Yep, in exceptional conditions.

I, personally, wouldn't recommend it but each their own!

 

[Taff]

OK, I'm playing Devils Advocate a bit here, but if we expect a Hooker to take the wind into account when throwing into the LO, why wouldn't we do the same with a SH throwing to a pod?

To be honest, I'm not sure I would count that as a forward pass .... provided the player who caught the ball was behind the thrower when he caught it.

 

[Decorily]

OK, I'm playing Devils Advocate a bit here, but if we ask a Hooker to take the wind into account when throwing into the LO, why wouldn't we do the same with a SH throwing to a pod?

I'm all for empathy and game management but should we ask a hooker to take the wind into account? Can they not figure that out for themselves?

 

[Decorily]

OK, I'm playing Devils Advocate a bit here, but if we ask a Hooker to take the wind into account when throwing into the LO, why wouldn't we do the same with a SH throwing to a pod?

To be honest, I'm not sure I would count that as a forward pass .... provided the player who caught the ball was behind the thrower when he caught it.

Edit..In response to your edit! !

Are you really going to go against what W.R. tell us is a forward pass?

 

[Taff]

I'm all for empathy and game management but should we ask a hooker to take the wind into account? Can they not figure that out for themselves?

OK, I've changed "Ask" to "Expect".

The question still stands; we expect a Hooker to allow for the wind at a LO, why wouldn't we expect a SH to allow for the wind if chucking to a pod?

 

[crossref]

So I think
Decorily is blowing the whistle
Rich Taff (and me) are not blowing our whistle

Anyone else willing to come off the fence ?

 

[Decorily]

OK, I've changed "Ask" to "Expect".

The question still stands; we expect a Hooker to allow for the wind at a LO, why wouldn't we expect a SH to allow for the wind if chucking to a pod?

Because 9s tend to be annoying little b******s!!

 

[ChrisR]

I'm not blowing for that and the other side will get the same consideration in the next half.

As for 'coaching'? Not much different from warning a defender that he's overstepping the line (when not material, of course).

I'm all for seeing some rugby played.

 

[crossref]

So , I make it

1 person blowing whistle
4 not blowing

 

[Decorily]

I'm not blowing for that and the other side will get the same consideration in the next half.

And what if there isn't a 'next half'. ..last minute of the game and try is scored after an obvious forward pass!