So if we are going to give RC for this (which I totally understand) then we really need the 20 minute rule thing
Quite possibly!, which would just add more weight for the 20 minute thingDon't worry it will be struck down by the DC by applying mitigation
I believe a no wrap tackle is considered to be intentional, therefore no mitigation. Generally speaking, no arm shoulder charges never get mitigation. The link below is specific to shoulder charges regarding the head contact process.Why did the referee say mitigation could not be applied after it was confirmed there was no attempt to wrap?
We are in a strange place where we have unintentional foul playI believe a no wrap tackle is considered to be intentional, therefore no mitigation.
Thanks for this, Stu. The video appears to be out of date though? It's part of the Head Contact Process from March 2021, and isn't included in the most recent guidance from March 2023.I believe a no wrap tackle is considered to be intentional, therefore no mitigation. Generally speaking, no arm shoulder charges never get mitigation. The link below is specific to shoulder charges regarding the head contact process.
Law Application Guidelines | World Rugby Laws
Law application guidelines for the game of rugby union.www.world.rugby
Somehow is missed the new version.Thanks for this, Stu. The video appears to be out of date though? It's part of the Head Contact Process from March 2021, and isn't included in the most recent guidance from March 2023.
Assuming the 2021 guidance has been superseded, isn't the only possible conclusion that shoulder charging with no wrap is considered "(highly) reckless" so mitigation cannot be applied under the 2023 guidance?
Law Application Guidelines | World Rugby Laws
Law application guidelines for the game of rugby union.www.world.rugby
This. dont want a RC? dont leave your shoulder/head etc anywhere near where the BCs head Its not as if he looked to trackle the knees and the BC got knocked 2 feet downwards .My first thought is that he is very upright going into contact... Until this behaviour changes, the risk of RC is always there.
This new version actually makes things easier for us... "Mitigation will not apply for intentional or always-illegal acts of foul play."
Geoblocked.So if we are going to give RC for this (which I totally understand) then we really need the 20 minute rule thing
I’ve watched it happen in super rugby and, while I do appreciate that it speeds up the review on field, I don’t appreciate that the decision is then made completely out of sight of the players and fans.I am actually thinking that this referral process may be quite a good one. Get them off the pitch for the yellow card. Let the TMO work through all the frameworks with plenty of time to decide. Upgrade it to red if necessary
Geoblocked.
get all of that.I’ve watched it happen in super rugby and, while I do appreciate that it speeds up the review on field, I don’t appreciate that the decision is then made completely out of sight of the players and fans.
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In my opinion, watching/hearing the referee work through the HCP out loud with the To4 benefits everyone. Of course, unnecessary reviews and over watching the replays in slow motion can take too much time but my preference, which I think progress has already been made toward, would be to find the balance of a suitably timed on-field review. Doing it behind closed doors leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think referees are experienced enough now with the HCP that the review process is noticeably faster than say 2 years ago and I’d rather keep it then move to decisions being made out of sight to both teams and fans.
thank you.
A replay of the tackle is shown, starting at 2:04 in the YouTube video.
Looks like a clear red to me.
or push an explanation out to everyone via an app .get all of that.
So why not at the next downtime demonstrate and talk through the decision "on field" ?