Martin Doughty
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Questions on scrum put ins with the new laws...
If the referee is no longer giving any signal for the put in, then what happens in the following situations:
Scenario 1: C-B-S and the scrum half immediately (meaning in the next few milli-seconds) puts the ball in {back in my hooking days we used to signal this by me or the SH just saying 'heads'}.
The scrum might not even be stable and it could even be starting to move, but it just has not yet had the time for the movement or instability to show.
Under last seasons laws we would have: a) waited until it was stable; b) penalised for an early push; c) penalised the SH for not waiting.
Question: What do we do now?
Scenarion 2: C-B-S but the scrum takes a few seconds to become stable.
Last season I would have given it this few seconds of settling time and then given the SH the OK.
What am I supposed to do now?
If I tell the SH that it is now stable and to continue then I am signalling to him.
If I do not give any signal then at what point do I penalise the SH for delaying the put it?
...and as a follow on to scenario 1, are immediate put-ins back on the menu?
If the referee is no longer giving any signal for the put in, then what happens in the following situations:
Scenario 1: C-B-S and the scrum half immediately (meaning in the next few milli-seconds) puts the ball in {back in my hooking days we used to signal this by me or the SH just saying 'heads'}.
The scrum might not even be stable and it could even be starting to move, but it just has not yet had the time for the movement or instability to show.
Under last seasons laws we would have: a) waited until it was stable; b) penalised for an early push; c) penalised the SH for not waiting.
Question: What do we do now?
Scenarion 2: C-B-S but the scrum takes a few seconds to become stable.
Last season I would have given it this few seconds of settling time and then given the SH the OK.
What am I supposed to do now?
If I tell the SH that it is now stable and to continue then I am signalling to him.
If I do not give any signal then at what point do I penalise the SH for delaying the put it?
...and as a follow on to scenario 1, are immediate put-ins back on the menu?