[In-goal] Restart into in goal - defender kicks it dead via touch in goal - decision?

[didds]

Ok here it is.

Blue kicks the ball. Rolls into Reds in-goal. Red picks it up and punts it down field. It then rolls in Blue in-goal. Blue picks up and places the ball down/taps the ball down.

My thoughts are in this as the ball has left reds in goal area. Then the Blue 22m DO is the call.

I concur.

Ball is in open play until Blue dabs dowm, red having put the ball into Blue in goal.

red is lucky the ball didnt roll dead in blue in gosal ie over DBL/TiG. that would have been a blue 5m scrum on red 5m line.



didds

 

[Ian_Cook]

Not for me. I'm Ok for a player to weigh up his options and still meet the "without delay" requirement. I'd give him a couple of seconds.

I agree.

I have always interpreted "without delay" to allow a player to have a quick look to see if anything is on then make the ball dead.

However if, for example, he picks up the ball and tries to run infield to get a better angle to kick to touch, then sees an opponent closing in too rapidly to allow him to get the kick away and so decides that grounding the ball is a better option, then his "without delay" time has expired - so no options.

 

[crossref]

Without Delay is slower than Immediately but faster than Use It

 

[Camquin]

Personally I would like use it to be cut to immediate from interminable.
And lefts standardise on immediate rather than have that and without delay.

 

[crossref]

So .. what about the simple scenario where

Green kicks off, into Red in goal

Red 15 picks up the ball and, without delay, kicks the ball directly into touch around about his own 22m line

Line out to green, right ?

 

[beckett50]

So .. what about the simple scenario where

Green kicks off, into Red in goal

Red 15 picks up the ball and, without delay, kicks the ball directly into touch around about his own 22m line

Line out to green, right ?

Yes it is

 

[Dickie E]

So .. what about the simple scenario where

Green kicks off, into Red in goal

Red 15 picks up the ball and, without delay, kicks the ball directly into touch around about his own 22m line

Line out to green, right ?

yes and a kick in the arse from the Red captain

 

[chbg]

So .. what about the simple scenario where

Green kicks off, into Red in goal

Red 15 picks up the ball and, without delay, kicks the ball directly into touch around about his own 22m line

Line out to green, right ?

Correct, he's put it back over the field of play.

 

[Lancsbarts]

Touch in goal, hence my confusion...

 

[Zebra1922]

Touch in goal, hence my confusion...

That’s not touch in goal (TIG)

TIG is where the ball goes into touch between the try line and the dead ball line.

 

[Camquin]

I believe Lancsbarts is referring to his original case that did actually happen as opposed to the hypotheticals that didn't.

 

[crossref]

I believe Lancsbarts is referring to his original case that did actually happen as opposed to the hypotheticals that didn't.

I am still not completely clear what happened in the orginal case, as while lancsbart said kicked into touch in goal he also said

He literally picked it straight up and booted it as far as he could. Obviously unaware of the law and was looking to basically get as far up field as he could so by interpretation, re start or scrum back as played "without delay". One to remember for next time!!

which sounds like he kicked it upfield into touch - so not a restart/scrum back at all - but play on (lineout) :shrug: