Seat-belt tackle now legal?

[CrouchTPEngage]

Just watching Leicester Quins where the commentary team made a big thing about the seat belt tackle no longer being a penalty offence.
Can someone please point me.at the clarification in law or guidelines as I must have missed.a refs meeting where this was discussed.
From the commentary, 'the arm now has to touch the head or.neck for.it to be deemed illegal'

Sounds like a good idea , just need to make sure I'm not PK ing the wrong types of tackle


Thanks in advance.

 

[Flish]

Just watching Leicester Quins where the commentary team made a big thing about the seat belt tackle no longer being a penalty offence.
Can someone please point me.at the clarification in law or guidelines as I must have missed.a refs meeting where this was discussed.
From the commentary, 'the arm now has to touch the head or.neck for.it to be deemed illegal'

Sounds like a good idea , just need to make sure I'm not PK ing the wrong types of tackle


Thanks in advance.

Sounds like commentator bull to me, I certainly see them often ignored, especially around the try line, in the elite game

 

[Zebra1922]

I’ve heard nothing about this. I gave three penalties yesterday for just this sort of tackle. I’ll continue to penalise it until WR issue an edict to say not to.

 

[dave_clark]

seems reasonable. i wouldn't be comfortable making decisions on the basis of "well Austin Healey said it was right".

 

[SimonSmith]

It's in the Elite level guidelines, no?

 

[chbg]

Just watching Leicester Quins where the commentary team made a big thing about the seat belt tackle no longer being a penalty offence.
Can someone please point me.at the clarification in law or guidelines as I must have missed.a refs meeting where this was discussed.
From the commentary, 'the arm now has to touch the head or.neck for.it to be deemed illegal'

Sounds like a good idea , just need to make sure I'm not PK ing the wrong types of tackle


Thanks in advance.

Matt Carney penalised exactly this type of tackle in the previous week, Bath v Chiefs 74th minute or thereabouts, stating "over the shoulder as tackle completed, no more than a penalty". Which is exactly as we would expect, I suggest.

 

[didds]

a few weeks ago in teh autumn internationals one game, early KO (scotland) had many seat belt tackle PKs awarded/advantage played over.

the following game (Ireland?) had three seat belt tackles in the first ten minutes, none of which were awarded/advantage played.

Id suspect that its an individual referee thing rather than some sudden change of policy across the board

??????

didds

 

[tim White]

Interestingly I watched a game this weekend where there was only one high tackle PK awarded (I agreed with this number). It would seem the message is getting through, so it would be a shame if TV rugby played to a different interpretation.

Another instance of TV rugby running the Laws rather than the grass roots where the vast majority of folk play and enjoy themselves?

 

[crossref]

Interestingly I watched a game this weekend where there was only one high tackle PK awarded (I agreed with this number). It would seem the message is getting through, so it would be a shame if TV rugby played to a different interpretation.

Another instance of TV rugby running the Laws rather than the grass roots where the vast majority of folk play and enjoy themselves?

I agree, my imprerssion is that high tackles have been all but eliminated at grassroots -- the few PKs I have to give are normally PK only level, where arms have ridden up, or ball carrier dropped height etc. Haven't needed a YC for a while

 

[Phil E]

I agree, my imprerssion is that high tackles have been all but eliminated at grassroots -- the few PKs I have to give are normally PK only level, where arms have ridden up, or ball carrier dropped height etc. Haven't needed a YC for a while

You clearly don't have any army bases near you that supply South Sea Island players to local teams!

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

I agree, my imprerssion is that high tackles have been all but eliminated at grassroots -- the few PKs I have to give are normally PK only level, where arms have ridden up, or ball carrier dropped height etc. Haven't needed a YC for a while

:biggrin:

As per PhilE - you need an appointment to Yorkshire 3 - eg Castleford v Knottingley (have a look on a map).
Awareness raised - yes.
Acceptance - grudgingly (sometimes)
Eliminated - no way!

 

[Lee Lifeson-Peart]

You clearly don't have any army bases near you that supply South Sea Island players to local teams!

I RC'd a kid a few weeks ago for Contact with Head who was playing his first game back after the same offence!

 

[crossref]

It's good to hear different experiences !

 

[SimonSmith]

:biggrin:

As per PhilE - you need an appointment to Yorkshire 3 - eg Castleford v Knottingley (have a look on a map).
Awareness raised - yes.
Acceptance - grudgingly (sometimes)
Eliminated - no way!

I think I win.

A lot of Pasifika players. Who are Leaguies...

 

[Dave Elliott]

Guys, @Flish @ctrainor @crossref
I ported this across from the old forums, as they were accidentally left active when this one went live.

please carry on the discussion below

 

[Volun-selected]

USAR specifically call out the seat-belt tackle in their game management guidelines as foul play. The entry level sanction for "low force" is a PK.
This past season I've only seen them used when trying to hold up a player not stopping them and none drifted into high tackle territory.

Just to add to some of the other comments - I have seen less high tackles this season, but still having to penalize shoulder charges and charging into the ruck.

 

[Dave Elliott]

Ladies games I have seen a lot of seatbelt tackles, but no other high tackles. Men’s is more bad timing or angle, where they are aiming for chest/ball but hit neck head area and fall fowl of the card!!

 

[tim White]

Sounds like a Cock-up, possibly a poor eggsample.